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Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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> I wonder if the people scared of permanent damage caused by Covid (for which there is no evidence) According to Google, 1.26M deaths and counting. If dying is not permanent damage, I'm not sure what is.

You know exactly what I meant so don't pretend otherwise. By the way, 1.26 million is less than 0.02% of the world's population.

No, I don't. Please explain.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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From Pfizer's press release, they use "vaccine efficacy" which has a very specific definition. "Vaccine efficacy is the percentage reduction of disease in a vaccinated group of people compared to an unvaccinated group" So basically a 90% reduction in Covid infection.

So what does it mean? Less severe symptoms or sterilizing immunity?

Neither of those. It means you don't get sick if you get in contact with the virus. Whether that means you're immune (i.e. not spreading the virus to others) is a different question that apparently hasn't been answered by this preliminary data yet. (And I can see this is more difficult to study.)

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#113

Great news and the markets are reacting very positively to the news as well which indicates to me this could be the beginning of the end!

There is another quite negative reading of this comment and I'm not sure which one you meant :)

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

I don't understand, aren't future events supposed to be already considered in the stock price? It's not like a vaccine was unpredictable

Yeah, but investors seem to want to hold on to stocks for as long as possible (dividends? I don't know how that works, as far as I know holding stock for dividends is nowhere near as profitable as speculating)

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Interesting timing here with regards to the US election. Edit/Update: "She said she learned of the results from the outside panel of experts shortly after 1 p.m. on Sunday, and that the timing was not influenced by the election." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/heal... Edit2: I failed to realize that it was necessary to point out that the timing of this press release is interesting. I wasn't i…

what are you insinuating here?

He's just saying the timing is impeccable.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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At the time of writing (2020-11-09 12:04 UTC) the article uses "90% of people" and "90% protection" interchangeably. I assume it means "90% of individuals achieve immunity", rather than "individuals achieve 90% immunity". EDIT: See child comment re: Pfizer press release. EDIT 2: See [1] for said press release, which has more detailed information than the BBC article. [1] https://investors.pfizer.com/investor-news/pre…

First phrasing makes more sense than the second one to me -- what would it even mean for somebody to be "90% immune" to a disease?

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Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Except Zoom's, which fell from 514 to 410 in less than an hour. Really puts the nails in coffin of the whole "we're gonna work more remotely after the pandemic" narrative.

I don't understand, aren't future events supposed to be already considered in the stock price? It's not like a vaccine was unpredictable

+1

Thanks for putting it so succinctly. I really hope someone who knows a thing or two about the efficient market hypothesis can elighten us a bit.

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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Fascinating logistics problem here - distributing a vaccine that needs to be stored at -80C. This is significantly colder than the standard cold logistics chain. I believe Pfizer are working on a special transport box that can, unpowered, stay at the right temperature for a week as long as the box is only opened for something like 1 minute a day. That's a good thing, but with a capacity of I believe 10k vaccine doses…

Great video about this exact topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byW1GExQB84

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

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post #39

Interesting timing here with regards to the US election. Edit/Update: "She said she learned of the results from the outside panel of experts shortly after 1 p.m. on Sunday, and that the timing was not influenced by the election." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/heal... Edit2: I failed to realize that it was necessary to point out that the timing of this press release is interesting. I wasn't i…

what are you insinuating here?

That cvoid will dissappear after the election. pfizer clearly had this data earlier and held it until after election

Re: Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% protection

#120

Fascinating logistics problem here - distributing a vaccine that needs to be stored at -80C. This is significantly colder than the standard cold logistics chain. I believe Pfizer are working on a special transport box that can, unpowered, stay at the right temperature for a week as long as the box is only opened for something like 1 minute a day. That's a good thing, but with a capacity of I believe 10k vaccine doses…

Should be fine, insulated / liquid nitrogen containers are nothing new.
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