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About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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I think it's interesting how iOS exploits are cheaper[1] than Android exploits, because iOS exploits are so plentiful in comparison to Android exploits. [1] https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/for-t...

This is super interesting. I don’t agree on your explanation. But is there any scholarship on the matter?

Variables appear to be size of user base, average disposable income, mean time to patch and number of competing exploits in the market.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #61

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> I was going to wait until the software on my pinephone was more mature but that pushed me over the edge to get power management working on my own and make sure it could make phone calls. I guess stress is personal, because this sounds way more stressful than anything I've had to deal with on iOS! And I say that as someone who'd like to get a more open (hardware and software) phone in the future.

iOS wasn't stressing me directly, it was that the UI is built to encourage compulsive media consumption and that was eating into other parts of my life like work (which is stressful.)

you can turn off notification badges per app

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

#113

Anybody get a bitter sweet feeling when ever these reported and fixed security exploits announcements happen? It's good that users aren't going to risk getting hacked by such vulnerabilities, but its bad that users can no longer uses these exploits to gain administrative control over their property.

Nevermind right to repair, how about right to own...

The fact that you're even being downvoted for this shows just how far the authoritarian control-freaks have taken over and brainwashed everyone with paranoia to jump right into their jail.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #39

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Wouldn't last official sale date be a better indicator of true device support? For example if someone bought it in an Apple store on the last day available, how long period would they have received updates for? For example in mid 2017 it was still officially sold by Apple in India (source: https://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/05/apple-iphone-5s-iphone-s... ).

Comparatively, no. Android phones generally get a maximum of 3 years of security updates from launch, not from last device sale date. So, within mobile phones, it's more informative to compare it to their competition. It shows you just how much better Apple is at mobile device support compared to everyone else.

So use the last sale date for both. Your point makes no sense.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #11

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We've changed the title above to that of the page. (Submitted title was "Apple releases iOS 14.2 and 12.4.9, fixing in-the-wild exploited vulnerabilities".)

I think this is a bad decision. The "in-the-wild" part is the interesting part because it is not the norm at all and it implies an interesting story.

It's an idiosyncrasy of the site that we avoid highlighting things in titles ("stories are community property, and submitting one doesn't give anyone the right to editorialize them").

I agree that the title we ended up with is suboptimal! "Exploitable" is a word I'd have been comfortable seeing there. But you take the good with the bad with the HN title rule; the site is primarily about discussion, not about being a noticeboard, and titles determine the discussion we have.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #70
post #39

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Wouldn't last official sale date be a better indicator of true device support? For example if someone bought it in an Apple store on the last day available, how long period would they have received updates for? For example in mid 2017 it was still officially sold by Apple in India (source: https://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/05/apple-iphone-5s-iphone-s... ).

>Wouldn't last official sale date be a better indicator of true device support? well in that case many cheap android phones/tablets would have negative support periods, considering they don't release any updates at all.

Yes? That sounds about right.

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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Comparatively, no. Android phones generally get a maximum of 3 years of security updates from launch, not from last device sale date. So, within mobile phones, it's more informative to compare it to their competition. It shows you just how much better Apple is at mobile device support compared to everyone else.

So use the last sale date for both. Your point makes no sense.

Galaxy S8 on sale at Walmart, Staples, and NewEgg. Likely falls off support in 3-4 months. So Android flagships are close to zero or even negative support time?

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #87

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I have a Mid-2014 RMBP, there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's sad to think OS support may be dropped in the next few years.

Still rocking my maxxed-out 2012 mbp15r here.

Ahem, rocking my 2009 MBP running Catalina =D

Although this appears to be the end of the line as there is no graphic acceleration support in Big Sur

Re: About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

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post #116
post #70

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>Wouldn't last official sale date be a better indicator of true device support? well in that case many cheap android phones/tablets would have negative support periods, considering they don't release any updates at all.

Yes? That sounds about right.

Which makes it kind of a pointlessly obtuse metric. To claim a device has negative months of support.
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