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Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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Alarming if true. Seems to me, being someone from Wisconsin, that Evers coming in and them pulling out are pretty coincidentally timed. It's almost is if he drove them out, but that can't be true because someone wrote this article that so caringly fears it's worse than that! Egad, it makes one wonder what to believe!

By the way how does this article interest hackers/tinkerers in any way? Answer without bias.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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post #91

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Corporations don’t have speech interests. The majority’s opinion in Citizens United is premised upon the assertion that they do.

If a state passed a law that corporations may not put a kosher or halal marking on foods they sell, would you find that law constitutional? (Certainly it's not interfering with the corporation's freedom of religion interests, is it? Corporations don't practice religion!) The problem here is that there's no simple or intuitive description of the solution we want besides "The right to free speech does not extend to the…

Preliminarily, I do think such a law would be constitutional. However, you haven’t said why you think it wouldn’t be, so I’m not sure what exactly you’re inviting me to argue.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

#113

Alarming if true. Seems to me, being someone from Wisconsin, that Evers coming in and them pulling out are pretty coincidentally timed. It's almost is if he drove them out, but that can't be true because someone wrote this article that so caringly fears it's worse than that! Egad, it makes one wonder what to believe! By the way how does this article interest hackers/tinkerers in any way? Answer without bias.

The plan was stupid from the get go. It was never going to work and was simply a give away at the expense of the tax payers. I'm from Wisconsin also and can confirm those buildings are not creating any jobs.

It was obviously stupid and controversial at the beginning and this was going to be the obvious conclusion.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

#114

This keeps coming up over the years... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19037625 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21350837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19099923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22850723 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21784924

Perhaps it's necessary to repeat some things. The only commenter on your third link still seems convinced the negative press is not true.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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lol, did you even read the article? the situation had absolutely nothing to do with the pay of American workers and everything to do with the fact that Foxconn management went into this situation without a plan, and the situation was exacerbated by their almost feudalistic management structure.

Everyone knows American workers are way worse than chinese blue collar workers. This is a well known fact among factory owners in China. Foxconn is not stupid, they've done such a thing before when migrating manufacturing to China. If American workers were good they'd take this project seriously too. They aren't, and the screw ups are just a result of certain executives not taking the project seriously and not provid…

Nothing in this article indicated that the problem was the quality of the American workers. They were given no business plans, no money, no authority to make final decisions. It doesn't matter who you hire at that point, that's a recipe for failure.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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post #61

Does anyone in the bay area have experience working with Foxconn?

We tried to set up internships with them through AIESEC once. They were super gung ho about it, it was like a bolt of lightning struck this dude (some sort of engineering manager in houston) when I was telling him about the program when he visited our campus. We had, like, three or four meetings, setting up for something crazy like fifty interns (AIESEC is a non profit that sets up local internships for international students) was on the table. We even had created the job descriptions and put them on our little internal internship board. Then they simply stopped returning our calls. Never found out what happened.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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I fixed some of your spelling errors: "Shameful fraud by foxconn. Shame on them. The fact they do it around the world with little repercussions is shameful."

It is incredibly shameful, but sometimes the utter disregard they have for the taxpayer is so stunning and brazen that you can't help but admire.

Why do you admire unethical behavior?

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

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post #65

This is very good information, but the wrong narrative. This was not some 'fake deal' by a Chinese firm to get subsidies, it looks like they probably barely broke even on this one - if that - and no company wants to have big ugly stain failures like this. It looks like Foxconn just bit off more than they could chew, maybe saw an opportunity, but then realized they couldn't make use of the plant. They knew what the th…

Foxconn is Taiwanese, not Chinese.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

#119

This keeps coming up over the years... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19037625 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21350837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19099923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22850723 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21784924

Those are previous pieces on an ongoing situation. This is a new article just published with updates on the current situation.

Re: Foxconn’s empty buildings, empty factories, and empty promises in Wisconsin

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol, did you even read the article? the situation had absolutely nothing to do with the pay of American workers and everything to do with the fact that Foxconn management went into this situation without a plan, and the situation was exacerbated by their almost feudalistic management structure.

Everyone knows American workers are way worse than chinese blue collar workers. This is a well known fact among factory owners in China. Foxconn is not stupid, they've done such a thing before when migrating manufacturing to China. If American workers were good they'd take this project seriously too. They aren't, and the screw ups are just a result of certain executives not taking the project seriously and not provid…

Can you define the meaning of "worse" here and then back up your claim with evidence?
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