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Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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This source is a lifestyle rag for people who hike, camp, etc. They're recently posted some super unscientific stuff about not wearing sunblock so you get all your Vitamin D.

> about not wearing sunblock so you get all your Vitamin D.

There's something to be said for that. And there's something to be said for putting on sunblock.

The two aren't mutually exclusive; both have their benefits.

Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Wim's resistance to cold isn't the product of many years of training and gradually increasing exposure.

1.) That does not prove what you claim at all. 2.) Also notably, neither study nor wiki claim that both brothers had equal resistance to cold. 3.) Lastly, Wim Hof claim is not so much that "gradually increasing exposure" makes him better at cold, his claim is that he found breathing techniques and has batter control over body functions. That may or may not be bullshit, but again, study is not disproving that. Here I…

Thanks, hadn’t read that about the study. Does make it seem more likely Wim Hof achieved some real effects.

However I should note that I randomly ended up in one of his workshops years back and he actually did claim that gradually increasing exposure does make you better at cold. It wasn’t the main thing but he did claim it.

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When a friend first told me about taking cold showers everyday, I thought he was incredibly motivated and a little crazy. Then when I finally decided to look into it and did the breathing technique, I realized I might be able to take a cold shower. Now I've been taking 1-2min cold showers (after my regular hot shower), every day for the last 4 months. It gives me a huge boost of energy, way better than coffee. Also,…

When you wrote 'way better than coffee', I had to think of my favourite morning routine: getting up and going straight to work on my bicycle. In winter this gives me a sort of freshness shock that may be similar to the cold shower. There's nothing quite like it in terms of waking up: indeed it's better than coffee.

Thing with commuting by bicycle is weather and sweat. I don't wanna be sweaty when I arrive, nor have my clothes all wet. That being said an optional walk (instead of say a bus) of 10-25 min is my preference. Sitting, especially when its humid (summer, rainy/snowy), makes me tired.

Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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post #112
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1.) That does not prove what you claim at all. 2.) Also notably, neither study nor wiki claim that both brothers had equal resistance to cold. 3.) Lastly, Wim Hof claim is not so much that "gradually increasing exposure" makes him better at cold, his claim is that he found breathing techniques and has batter control over body functions. That may or may not be bullshit, but again, study is not disproving that. Here I…

Thanks, hadn’t read that about the study. Does make it seem more likely Wim Hof achieved some real effects. However I should note that I randomly ended up in one of his workshops years back and he actually did claim that gradually increasing exposure does make you better at cold. It wasn’t the main thing but he did claim it.

I found it by clicking on reference in wikipedia the parent quoted. Here is full study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4094425/

> However I should note that I randomly ended up in one of his workshops years back and he actually did claim that gradually increasing exposure does make you better at cold. It wasn’t the main thing but he did claim it.

Ah, ok. I personally find that part uncontroversial, winter swimming clubs are pretty much thing where I live and they claim same thing. The thing I perceived as controversial/disbelieved were breathing techniques, superior body control and wild health benefits. Again, winter swimming clubs here claim health benefits too, but you are supposed to become less vulnerable to common cold and such rather then curing diabetes or cancer.

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For those interested in going deeper into the incredible world of breathing techniques I recommend "Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art" [0]. Part personal account, part research summary, the book covers a lot of the world's ancient breathing traditions (including Wim Hof and his antecedents), as well as what modern science has to say about them. As with many other aspects of holistic health, it's incredible how We…

> Chew tough stuff, exercise your jaw.

One of the primary reasons I like to eat meat (am nearly vegetarian and happy that way) or chew gum its good for your brains -- other than respectively B12 and fresh breath.

Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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post #36

For those interested in going deeper into the incredible world of breathing techniques I recommend "Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art" [0]. Part personal account, part research summary, the book covers a lot of the world's ancient breathing traditions (including Wim Hof and his antecedents), as well as what modern science has to say about them. As with many other aspects of holistic health, it's incredible how We…

> exercise your jaw. This can help build wider mouths

I have bruxism. My doctor told me specifically to not chew excessively.

Also, despite the bruxism over a period of >20 years, I don't have a wide mouth :(

Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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post #36

For those interested in going deeper into the incredible world of breathing techniques I recommend "Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art" [0]. Part personal account, part research summary, the book covers a lot of the world's ancient breathing traditions (including Wim Hof and his antecedents), as well as what modern science has to say about them. As with many other aspects of holistic health, it's incredible how We…

> exercise your jaw. This can help build wider mouths (new bone growth!) and open up your airways. Do you have a citation for that? Jaw bone pretty much stops growing in your late teens. Increasing bone density is not the same as actual bone growth. By that rational doing deadlifts would stimulate your leg bones to continue grow which is obviously untrue.

I suspect it does actually cause your leg bones to adapt, however not by getting longer. Just how often are powerlifter's skeletons examined for adaptations? See the research into the arm bones of British archers who pulled a +100lb bow. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/09/30/br...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exercise your jaw. This can help build wider mouths (new bone growth!) and open up your airways. Do you have a citation for that? Jaw bone pretty much stops growing in your late teens. Increasing bone density is not the same as actual bone growth. By that rational doing deadlifts would stimulate your leg bones to continue grow which is obviously untrue.

Lookup the term "mewing" - apparently jaw changes after age 25 are difficult but apparently not impossible. I'd recommend watching this interview between John Mew (orthodontist) and Bret Weinstein too: https://youtu.be/JYpPu-NrYSI

I remember seeing this but I still don't know if it's a hoax or not.

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When a friend first told me about taking cold showers everyday, I thought he was incredibly motivated and a little crazy. Then when I finally decided to look into it and did the breathing technique, I realized I might be able to take a cold shower. Now I've been taking 1-2min cold showers (after my regular hot shower), every day for the last 4 months. It gives me a huge boost of energy, way better than coffee. Also,…

I began thinking of grit and will power as muscles that get stronger with exercise. I don't know if it's actually true but I'm okay with placeboing myself on this one. You exercise it anytime you face being uncomfortable with resilience. When I go for long runs and I reach the point where I'm not enjoying it any more and I just want to be done I think to myself, "this is the best part, this is the part where I'm getting stronger." It affects every other part of my life, it's training my default mental mode to be "I can do this" even when things look hard.
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