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I haven't done much research on what is the current state of the art thinking about this.
I bet people here know loads about it - where should I start after the wikipedia?
I would love for there to be an actual open source/wiki government model that we could try. I haven't done much research on what is the current state of the art thinking about this. I bet people here know loads about it - where should I start after the wikipedia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_governance
there's no easy way
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This story reminds me of when the Soviets fought their way into Germany in 1945, and eventually Berlin. The Red Army soldiers saw the wealth that Germany possessed and it pissed them off even more. They thought "why would a country this rich invade a poor country like ours?". The theory is that it was a contribution to the brutal treatment of Germans immediately before and after the end of the war (beyond the retribu…
> The Red Army soldiers saw the wealth that Germany possessed and it pissed them off even more. They thought "why would a country this rich invade a poor country like ours?". Can you please share the story? This is the first time I hear of this
It wasn't described as a main motivation, just another contributing factor for revenge. Which seems entirely understandable - someone with a better life than you decides to invade your country and massacre your fellow country man.
Dont we see this with open source? More people show up. More people can find issues. Many more people can find issues than can fix them. The bug tracker bloats. Core team members get called incompetent every 2 hrs. As a counter reaction some core team members get it into their head, to share less or react in unhelpful ways that have long term costs and things go back and forth in waves. We have a few rules at work. 1…
Can you expand upon point 3? I do not really follow sports.
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> The trains run. Given human history, and every other undeveloped country, this is working. Sure, and in the context of any single country it might not be working. Is a train running at 3mph "working" because there were no trains on earth during all those years of human history before the invention of trains? I don't think that's a useful definition of "working". I do absolutely agree that advanced societies are mir…
your definition of "work" is a moral/aesethic one, rather than a functional one there is no sense in which a $1k dollar burger weighs on whether a society is functioning your moral distaste at the marginal value of $1k to different people, doesnt strike me, as very relevant to the issue indeed, that , people have different marginal values for $1k is precisely a symptom of how profoundly well rich societies function
Do you think that a power plant that produces energy at $10000/kwh "works" next to one that produces energy at $0.1/kwh?
I don't see "works" as a binary, I consider it relative to expectations and possibilities. I hoped the burger example would illustrate that, but maybe it was too close to reality since it probably exists.
Let me try another way: it's great to have clean water, but if you spend all X on providing clean water while others create the same with X/1000, whatever you're doing to produce clean water is not working. But of course it "working" as in "okay, there's clean water", but it's not working in a societal sense, we cannot sustain doing that, we must look for another option.
Authority rests on information control. High status roles generally depend on access to and control over the dominant communication channels of the time. [...] Of all social roles, those of hierarchy are affected most by new patterns of information flow. The loss of information control undermines traditional authority figures. Further, because information control is an implicit rather than an explicit aspect of high…
That's very insightful. He practically predicted The Donald and his wrestling with social media over how much he can lie and spread hatred online unchallenged (although that latter part is very much explicit).
Trump lies, but I have seen very little evidence that he lies more than any previous president.
The things he lies about are precisely the "Great Leader" style attempts to improve his image.
To me, that is much preferable to lying in order to push us into another Middle East war.
Alternate headline: "People With Access to More Information Less Likely to Trust Blindly" The article references a paper that hasn't yet been peer reviewed either. This isn't much. "In general, people’s confidence in their leaders declined after getting 3g. However, the size of this effect varied. It was smaller in countries that allow a free press than in ones where traditional media are muzzled, and bigger in count…
Alternate headline: “Higher meme transmission rates strengthen cultural immune systems”
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your definition of "work" is a moral/aesethic one, rather than a functional one there is no sense in which a $1k dollar burger weighs on whether a society is functioning your moral distaste at the marginal value of $1k to different people, doesnt strike me, as very relevant to the issue indeed, that , people have different marginal values for $1k is precisely a symptom of how profoundly well rich societies function
> your definition of "work" is a moral/aesethic one, rather than a functional one Do you think that a power plant that produces energy at $10000/kwh "works" next to one that produces energy at $0.1/kwh? I don't see "works" as a binary, I consider it relative to expectations and possibilities. I hoped the burger example would illustrate that, but maybe it was too close to reality since it probably exists. Let me try a…
For sure, efficiency is part of "working". I guess my baseline for "working" is a far lower level of efficiency than yours.
Yours is certainly contextually-relevant to our society (ie., we should always hope for better efficiency). But I think when taking a step back to answer the binary question "does government work?" our baseline has to be against governments which dont (rather than some minor local inefficiency).
Governments which don't work produce civil wars, mafias, mob patronage structures, impoverished citizens, etc.
It is those governments we shouldn't trust, rather than a somewhat incompetent western bureaucracy which should mostly get the benefit of the doubt towards "working".
Alternate headline: "People With Access to More Information Less Likely to Trust Blindly" The article references a paper that hasn't yet been peer reviewed either. This isn't much. "In general, people’s confidence in their leaders declined after getting 3g. However, the size of this effect varied. It was smaller in countries that allow a free press than in ones where traditional media are muzzled, and bigger in count…
I will call this a "Elzin Effect": — When Boris Yeltsin went grocery shopping in Clear Lake — Yes, that Boris Yeltsin. In 1989 the future first president of post-Soviet Russia visited Houston, and what most impressed him wasn’t NASA. — It was a Randall’s grocery store, where the Houston Chronicle saw him “nodding his head in amazement” at the fish, produce and frozen pudding pops: — “He commented that if the Soviet p…
In west Ukraine a lot of people been there. I think that's what divided country. In no way I am going to support pro Russia policy once I've been to Europe.
Citizens visiting prosperous neighbor country is worst enemy of authoritarian regime.