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If they were really doing the best they can, the logical conclusion is no amount of effort can actually fix this, and a global, engagement-based social network is too toxic to exist.
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Your example is interesting because in retrospect Super Size Me was alarmist and unfair. Morgan Spurlock mislead viewers to believe that his health conditions were caused by McDonalds when they were in fact caused by alcoholism. https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-big-mac-attack-or-a-false-ala...
Are you claiming that the Social Dilemma was likewise alarmist and unfair?
Give me a break.
Yesterday I watched The Social Dilemma, and I just wanted to share some of my experiences: I quit FB as a user in 2011. In 2013, when I was 25, I received a high paying job offer to work at FB. Going to SV was a long-time dream, but in the end I took the hard decision not to take the offer. Ultimately I really don't like what FB does. The perks and salary don't compensate for that. I'm still on HN, LinkedIn and Whats…
> I'm very worried about how my kids will be able to handle it in their teens. The biggest factor after education would be the ability to be non conformist. That requires you have some leverage in the group. If you don't, you will quickly become target for exclusion and bullying. In school, it's not easy to avoid bad apples and many parents are/will be negligent. So you will have few students using social media and t…
Yesterday I watched The Social Dilemma, and I just wanted to share some of my experiences: I quit FB as a user in 2011. In 2013, when I was 25, I received a high paying job offer to work at FB. Going to SV was a long-time dream, but in the end I took the hard decision not to take the offer. Ultimately I really don't like what FB does. The perks and salary don't compensate for that. I'm still on HN, LinkedIn and Whats…
I received a high paying job offer to work at FB How did you get an offer without going through their extensive interview process?
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I received a high paying job offer to work at FB How did you get an offer without going through their extensive interview process?
I went through the process. They reached out to me, and at first I was very excited and I just wanted to see how good I was. Honestly I didn't think I'd make it far. When I reached the offer stage after 2 months I took a long time to think if this is what I really wanted, and the fact that it was FB was one of the deciding factors. Oh, and high paying: it was like 3x my previous salary, but not high for SV standards.
This was before the company was viewed as completely morally bankrupt. They pay probably the highest in SV now to make up for that.
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> I'm very worried about how my kids will be able to handle it in their teens. The biggest factor after education would be the ability to be non conformist. That requires you have some leverage in the group. If you don't, you will quickly become target for exclusion and bullying. In school, it's not easy to avoid bad apples and many parents are/will be negligent. So you will have few students using social media and t…
Thank you! I already notice how very different my three kids are, and being non conformist is going to be easier for some than for others for sure. The link you've added seem mostly for software tools that block social media, I think fostering a resilient / non confirmist personality is going to be the toughest challenge.
There are articles, communities linked on privacy, surveillance, etc issues.
I think the first step would be to self host your own social media and other stuff (next cloud?) with the family. Although, not every kid will be interested but I presume at least one would be curious in your case. Start it as a hobby on a weekend and invite them. Get s raspberry Pi and it will be a fun tinkering experience.
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> If feels to me that FB is mega coorp where the people in it want to do better but the machine is so much bigger than the people in it they are currently lost on how to do it Maybe it's just that the whole concept - Algorithmic curation of content, instead of human editors - is flawed and impossible to fix. Maybe YouTube has the exact same problem only fewer clearnames and a higher barrier-to-entry (no text posts).…
No. That would be repressive and quickly invite censorship from influential people and state. Better solution: Limit freemium model on anti-competitive basis for software services. If facebook and instagram stops being free, I would think a huge portion of consumer base will quickly reconsider the value it provides them and alternative companies will have more chance to enter in the market when there is more leveling…
Yesterday I watched The Social Dilemma, and I just wanted to share some of my experiences: I quit FB as a user in 2011. In 2013, when I was 25, I received a high paying job offer to work at FB. Going to SV was a long-time dream, but in the end I took the hard decision not to take the offer. Ultimately I really don't like what FB does. The perks and salary don't compensate for that. I'm still on HN, LinkedIn and Whats…
I wonder how many other engineers feel similarly. It feels increasingly like having "Facebook" on your resume is a badge of shame. Sure, you can make good money working there, but you also have to be able to sleep at night.
So literally like any product saying "We of product X recommend product X".
And also the fact that if they didn't put out this document, they might later get sued and the lack of response towards "The Social Dillema" may be used as an argument that they don't care. And as such, they lose a case.
But about that data...
See, I've always heard Facebook makes the largest part of its money by selling data about its users.
Is that not true? Or, even worse, was it wrong of me to assign value to articles and news stories that stated this? If so, why?
What about the reverse? Would there be those who consider it foolish to place stock in a statement that says Facebook does not sell user data, or sells it anonymized?
It feels to me like a deliberate attempt to move all conversation on the subject into the territory of "you can't really know for sure, so SHUT UP".
Get people to stop talking about it, by virtue of casting doubt on everything anyone says.
Meanwhile, Facebook keeps doing whatever it's doing. Nothing changes.
Facebook could fix this problem by opening up about what it does with the data. But it refuses to do that. Trade secrets, I suppose?
Either way, it's Facebook who's handling the data, not us. As such, all responsibility falls on them, not us.
I see a bunch of "bad thing X was said about our product, we developers of said product say that our product does not do aforementioned bad things". So literally like any product saying "We of product X recommend product X". And also the fact that if they didn't put out this document, they might later get sued and the lack of response towards "The Social Dillema" may be used as an argument that they don't care. And a…
Categorically untrue. They sell advertising space. The data is used to target the ads, which are often paid for based on performance.
Selling the data would be a terrible idea... if anyone else had it, it would undermine their value proposition.