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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by mercora »

i declined any agreement i could on a Samsung TV and it does not show those large banner ads to me but sometimes it shows some smaller ad near the source selection area. It looks like if you are paying enough you still get a spot there.

Whats more it constantly installs some partner apps and puts them for quick start into the menu sometimes removing the applications i actually use from there in the process. I prefer using these apps for Netflix and co but every time i plugged it into the ether i feel like i should not and a fear of it getting even worse somehow.

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Post by solarkraft »

I have a 7 series TV and it came with some arguably bloatware apps but I could remove them (from the menu, not uninstall them, which leaves me with not even a few mb to install Spotify). The one thing I can't get rid of is a stupid program guide I have to go over when going from sources to settings. That's it so far. I'm in Europe and disagreed with any data collection they asked about.

Does it now even still do the ACR? Are they going to retroactively install me ads? Are there specific domain names one should block? Alternative firmwares?

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by pjc50 »

MaxBarraclough wrote: post #54
izacus wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection. This is a nice trite trope, but getting an affordable TV without these features might be nearly impossible for most people these days.

True, but even if you're paying for a network-capable device, you still have the option of not plugging it in.

TVs can refuse to get the EPG over the air and insist on getting it from the internet. I'm not aware of one where this happens, though.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by m463 »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #93
neya wrote: post #31

Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…

I don't trust most smart TVs, that's why I bought a dumb TV from TCL. If I want any fancy smart functions, I'll just connect an android box via HDMI.

I worry that these manufacturers will collude with xfinity to do an "iot workaround" to exfiltrate "customer preferences"

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Post by [deleted] »

reallydontask wrote: post #77
tadzik_ wrote: post #56

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> If they want to collect air quality stats from my location they should pay me for that data From their perspective, they probably gave you a discount for your data. See also https://www.businessinsider.com/smart-tv-data-collection-adv...

it's an interesting point you make, but perhaps companies should make these trade offs transparent. You can get the version that phones home or you can pay extra for the version that doesn't. I suppose the problem is that they'd make this transparent and there would likely be a bit of backlash ... thank goodness that regulatory agencies have our best interests at heart /s

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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by solarkraft »

silon42 wrote: post #35
silon42 wrote: post #34

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+1 have Samsung TV(s), never connected to internet, never will.

I just fear they will start doing Internet via TV box via HDMI... it will be time to cancel that too, or use it via VGA converter.

There have been rumors about TVs connecting to open wireless networks.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by fsaintjacques »

nicolas_t wrote: post #18

Can those "smart" TV do ACR on content provided via HDMI? i.e. if I connect my apple TV to my intrusive smart TV, does it do ACR on the signal it receives via HDMI? At home I don't have a smart TV (I use a JVC video projector and they've resisted adding those kind of useless feature so far) but my parents use a smart TV connected to an apple TV and so I'm curious what happens there.

It sure does.

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Post by FriendlyNormie »

pmontra wrote: post #17
pfundstein wrote: post #9

Here's wondering if these ads can be blocked simply with a DNS based blocker like PiHole.

Yes, until they'll add a data SIM to the TVs. Then what, some shielding on the case? And what if the TV won't boot unless online with its own server? I think: monitor + DVB decoder + Raspberry PI.

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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by random_visitor »

flucivja wrote: post #105
huhtenberg wrote: post #79

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> If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it Just don't connect it to the Internet. The bigger problem is that at some point there will not be any "idiot box" models at all. The TVs will refuse to work if they aren't seeing the Internet. Then we'll be truly fucked.

just thinking what would happen if I block connection to Ads services in my router...

That's pretty much what a pi-hole is. According to my friends who use a pi-hole to filter their connection, it makes almost everything ad-free
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