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Post by iso1631 »

MrsPeaches wrote: post #58
ArgyleSound wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The unelected Labour opposition ???

To give the full quote: > The unelected Labour opposition proposed activist shills took control of the editorial policy of not just the BBC but also print media.

Really trying hard to parse

(The unelected Labour opposition)

OK, very wrong, but I think that's attempting to describe the elected labour mps in parliament

"activist shills"

I assume this means people who don't read the daily express

So I think I can parse this as

Some Labour MPs, at some point, proposed a group of people should take control of the editorial policy of the BBC and newspapers.

I'm not sure what story he's talking about though.

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by easytiger »

michaelt wrote: post #99
easytiger wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you deny the remit of BBC one is as stated and the BBC doesn't operate under that principle?

Is there a difference between being "most popular, wide range, mixed-genre" and being "mainstream audience, broad range, mixed-genre" ?

> offering a wide range of high quality programmes

How often do you watch a show on BBC One?

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by easytiger »

iso1631 wrote: post #109
easytiger wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> opposition parties are not "unelected". unelected to government. > , who you claim control the BBC and print media, since despite specifically referring to "Labour" you said you don't mean it's Labour. I didn't use a present tense. Corbyn et al had a proposal to take control of editorial departments of major newspapers and tv media to set the agenda. Your difficulty in reading comprehension is hardly relevant to th…

In the UK we don't elect any members of our government, so that seems a redundant statement.

Government in UK political and legal terminology ostensibly refers to the formation called the cabinet and the prime minister. If you do not win a general election you cannot form a government. Therefore you lose the GE you are not elected to government

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by easytiger »

chrisseaton wrote: post #89
easytiger wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*failed to win the election, unelected to government

They were elected... to be the opposition. They’re the elected opposition. If they were unelected they couldn’t be the opposition.

They were not elected to government,i.e. the cabinet and office of prime minister

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by chrisseaton »

easytiger wrote: post #114
chrisseaton wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were elected... to be the opposition. They’re the elected opposition. If they were unelected they couldn’t be the opposition.

They were not elected to government,i.e. the cabinet and office of prime minister

Right... they were elected to be... the opposition. Isn't that what we were saying?

You sound like you aren't aware that Leader of the Opposition is actually an official paid position, listed in the Ministers of the Crown Act 1937. You can only get this official position by being a member of parliament (voted in all practical modern cases and in this case), and representing the minority party.

So they're in an elected official position, sworn to the Crown, with actual responsibilities and pay, set out in concrete legislation - and that's actually pretty rare in the British constitution!

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by tialaramex »

iso1631 wrote: post #109
easytiger wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> opposition parties are not "unelected". unelected to government. > , who you claim control the BBC and print media, since despite specifically referring to "Labour" you said you don't mean it's Labour. I didn't use a present tense. Corbyn et al had a proposal to take control of editorial departments of major newspapers and tv media to set the agenda. Your difficulty in reading comprehension is hardly relevant to th…

In the UK we don't elect any members of our government, so that seems a redundant statement.

However, conventionally the Prime Minister will be chosen from the ranks of elected Members of the Commons, and all the Great Officers (the senior cabinet posts like Foreign Secretary or Chancellor) will likewise be MPs. So every Prime Minister in living memory was the elected MP for their constituents.

Since it's only a convention the Commons certainly could just decide not to do this, and of course there isn't anybody to stop them - but that would be extraordinary. It hasn't happened at all in the modern era.

I guess the most plausible way it could arise now is if there isn't any majority in the Commons after an election, a conventional senior-junior coalition partnership in which the larger party gets PM but the smaller party gets some other roles is impossible for some reason, and the "obvious" compromise centrist politician has meanwhile been elevated to the Lords.

Nothing in the existing rules actually forbids a Lord being PM, it would just be incredibly inconvenient (the Commons hold the PM to account not the Lords so...) and look undemocratic, so I guess in that case they might decide the way forward is we put this chap in place as caretaker, his executive gets us out of whatever immediate hole we're in, and then hold fresh elections. If there is a decent majority in the Commons for that idea, it's enough to make it happen.

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by tialaramex »

easytiger wrote: post #113
iso1631 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK we don't elect any members of our government, so that seems a redundant statement.

Government in UK political and legal terminology ostensibly refers to the formation called the cabinet and the prime minister. If you do not win a general election you cannot form a government. Therefore you lose the GE you are not elected to government

> If you do not win a general election you cannot form a government.

On the contrary. All you need to form a government is some way to get a majority for Confidence, and all you'd need to make that a working government is Confidence and Supply. That's all Theresa May had, she did not win the election but she had DUP promises to vote for her on the question of confidence and where necessary for supply, and that was enough to limp on for quite some time.

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ghaff wrote: post #95
robjan wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many parts are completely inaccessible from abroad.

As I recall, for iPlayer you need to VPN to the UK from abroad and register with a UK postal code.

It was a few years ago, but last time I looked at iPlayer (arrive the time the license requirements changed to cover online) you had to put your license number in? (I guess perhaps that was a limited trial or something).

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ClikeX wrote: post #17
nsgi wrote: post #3

Bit of a shame the license is so restrictive you can't even use it in non-profit organisations without permission. Wondering what you can realistically do with them other than using one for a ringtone on your phone

As a hobby musician, I can sample them and work them into my music. Only need to license it if I decide to release it on Spotify.

Depends a lot on where you are.

USA's Fair Use would probably let you sample these sounds for use in developing your music even without the license.

In the UK there aren't anything like personal use exceptions so sampling if its allowed by the license would be fine, but if you play back the track and anyone hears it then strictly that's a performance and likely to be infringing (yes, UK law is that restrictive; for example UK schools have to have music performance licenses to watch TV in class in case a program includes copyright music, it's pretty ludicrous).

Re: BBC Sound Effects made available to download for use under RemArc Licence (2018)

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Post by ghaff »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #118
ghaff wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I recall, for iPlayer you need to VPN to the UK from abroad and register with a UK postal code.

It was a few years ago, but last time I looked at iPlayer (arrive the time the license requirements changed to cover online) you had to put your license number in? (I guess perhaps that was a limited trial or something).

As I recall (I think I watched some theater a few months ago), you had to check a box that you had a license but you didn't have to actually enter anything.
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