This is a good step forward to improve the consumption of PDFs. https://www.nngroup.com/articles/pdf-unfit-for-human-consump...
Adobe unveils multi-year vision for PDF, introduces Liquid Mode
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Re: Adobe unveils multi-year vision for PDF, introduces Liquid Mode
#112Re: Adobe unveils multi-year vision for PDF, introduces Liquid Mode
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which android pdf reader has it?
I would guess Adobe's? Or otherwise it's not "Liquid Mode" but a similar feature...
According to the article Adobe reader for Android got this feature recently. I tried it and I am disappointed. Maybe OP was talking about reflow mode that indeed was accessible in many pdf readers, but for technical papers (math) it was useless.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to this article, nothing will be "delivered" as liquid PDF, because it's a feature of the reader app, not the document. The point is that there are 30 years worth of existing, static, PDF documents - published as PDF for a potentially valid reason - which are frustrating to read on a mobile device.
I'm not convinced this is even a feature of the reader app. When they click "Liquid Mode", it says "Processing in Document Cloud" which means they're sending all your PDFs to their servers? Make sure you don't click Liquid Mode on any sensitive documents!
The PR post states near its end that the more documents go through Adobe Sensei the better it will get. So yes, they’re mining third party data. It would be interesting to see if this is GDPR compliant (I bet no since user is not well informed about the processing).
Re: Adobe unveils multi-year vision for PDF, introduces Liquid Mode
#115It sounds like it will make viewing papers and such that are PDFs much more convenient, eventually. But it really makes you question the idea of putting things into PDF format in the first place. Because at this point it may be that a significant majority of the time PDFs are read on screens. So in my opinion it might make more sense for acedemic journals (for example) to standardize on a something like reStructuredT…
E-pub is a ziped html and css
Re: Adobe unveils multi-year vision for PDF, introduces Liquid Mode
#116Imagine creating a document format so broken you need to build an artificial intelligence product to display it on smaller screens.
Its not broken, it’s just not designed to do this.
A pdf file is a program that outputs pages you can display or print. There are no more restrictions to the format.
That’s why without some artificial intelligence you can’t edit or reflow the contents.
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If the AI is built in to a client side reader, that reader has to be installed on all clients, then kept up to date. A frictionless solution would be for Adobe to offer the AI as a web service that renders legacy PDF files as HTML.
I would prefer that my device does not phone home to Adobe about every single PDF I decide to look at on my phone. On-device rendering for me, please.
It would be opt-in only, to respect your wishes.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is more like a readability mode than a responsive website. It's a button you click to automatically make a fixed-layout PDF fluid and easier to read on mobile. You'd still author the document the same way without considering multiple device sizes. When the PDF needs to be reproduced faithfully (printing) it would still appear as the creator intended.
For many, the point of a PDF is that it appears the same way in all contexts. For device-dependent rendering, we have HTML.
> For device-dependent rendering, we have HTML.
Say that to those who create PDF files for things that should be web pages. That behavior is not going to stop anytime soon.