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Re: Eviction startup gets gig workers to help landlords kick people out

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Post by scarface74 » Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 3:01 AM UTC

vanusa wrote: post #110

scarface74 wrote: post #97

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Do you have a list of states where it isn’t the case? Have you been a landlord? Have you gone through the eviction process. Choosing the three largest states. It is the process in California https://civil.lasd.org/CivilProcess/cwig19.aspx?1 New York https://nycourts.gov/CourtHelp/Homes/beingEvicted.shtml Texas https://www.buildium.com/laws/texas-eviction-laws/ And a few other states. Florida: https://www.managecentra…

Have you gone through the eviction process. [?] Like they say where I hail from: "None a 'yer bizness." That said, a "scientific" analysis of a "representative sample" of the above links indicates that very few (if any) deal make any mention at all of the case to which we are referring: that is, where the tenant has vacated the premises (leaving their belongings on site) after the landlord has reclaimed possession. T…

I ask again, have you been a landlord? Have you ever been on either side of the eviction process in any state?

Yes there is a process. After 18 days, what do you think the landlord does with the property? Do you think they keep it forever?

The eviction process in some states and getting rid of the property have separate timelines. But after that holding period, you are still allowed to remove the property as you see fit.

As far as the article is concerned, the landlord would just have to wait 18 days before calling the company.

Even your own citation says “you are at liberty to dispose of it whichever way you please.” Just as I said.

There are plenty of Byzantine steps to the eviction process. But at the end of the day, someone from the sheriff’s department removes the person and ultimately you are responsible for disposing of the property. Whether that happens the same day is immaterial.

Re: Eviction startup gets gig workers to help landlords kick people out

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Post by vanusa » Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 11:33 PM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #111

vanusa wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you gone through the eviction process. [?] Like they say where I hail from: "None a 'yer bizness." That said, a "scientific" analysis of a "representative sample" of the above links indicates that very few (if any) deal make any mention at all of the case to which we are referring: that is, where the tenant has vacated the premises (leaving their belongings on site) after the landlord has reclaimed possession. T…

I ask again, have you been a landlord? Have you ever been on either side of the eviction process in any state? Yes there is a process. After 18 days, what do you think the landlord does with the property? Do you think they keep it forever? The eviction process in some states and getting rid of the property have separate timelines. But after that holding period, you are still allowed to remove the property as you see…

I ask again, have you been a landlord? Have you ever been on either side of the eviction process in any state?

This is a typical debating "technique": bully the other party with questions like "Have you ever lived in country X? No? Then you have no right to question anything I say about the politics or history of country X."

Yes there is a process. After 18 days, what do you think the landlord does with the property? Do you think they keep it forever?

The point is, your initial message 100 percent, straight up said the complete opposite of what you're saying now: that as a landlord you can just "throw their stuff out on the curb" with no process whatsoever.

Thank you for explicitly backpedaling, at least.

Re: Eviction startup gets gig workers to help landlords kick people out

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Post by scarface74 » Sat, Sep 26, 2020, 7:44 PM UTC

vanusa wrote: post #112

scarface74 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ask again, have you been a landlord? Have you ever been on either side of the eviction process in any state? Yes there is a process. After 18 days, what do you think the landlord does with the property? Do you think they keep it forever? The eviction process in some states and getting rid of the property have separate timelines. But after that holding period, you are still allowed to remove the property as you see…

I ask again, have you been a landlord? Have you ever been on either side of the eviction process in any state? This is a typical debating "technique": bully the other party with questions like "Have you ever lived in country X? No? Then you have no right to question anything I say about the politics or history of country X." Yes there is a process. After 18 days, what do you think the landlord does with the property?…

I’m not explicitly backpedaling on anything. I argued against the narrative that

A) it’s dangerous to hire a third party inverted movers because their might be an interaction between the evicted tenant and the crew moving things out. The police are always involved during a legal eviction when you move the tenant out.

B) inverted movers may destroy the property. Secure “storage” in states where the two don’t happen the same day - moving the tenant out and moving their stuff could just be leave it in the house and if they don’t come for it dispose of it however you want - including using inverted movers.

Have you ever lived in country X? No? Then you have no right to question anything I say about the politics or history of country X."

You are allowed to have your own opinions but not your own facts. One of us have actually gone through the legal eviction process. One of us haven’t. I think I have more credibility.