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Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by Jarwain »

vkou wrote: post #47
magicsmoke wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The founders of modern democracy already questioned the quality of the average citizen and whether they could be trusted with policy making. Hence the US was founded as a representative democracy. Citizens didn't make judgements on war and industry, they made judgements on politicians that would do so on their behalf.

The founding fathers were so concerned about this, that the US was also founded as a representative democracy, where the only people whose opinions counted were wealthy white landowning men. Let's not look at a model where less than 2% of the population could vote as some brilliant stroke of foresight. It was created by aristocrats for aristocrats. Mind you, this post does not advocate for direct democracy, but the o…

Well the argument for that at the time was that the only people who really received any halfway decent education were wealthy white landowning men. The idea being that education's important for comparing policy and making a good decision re: representation, or more generally that an educated populace is important for a functioning democracy.

And in that I kinda agree; an educated population is Important for a functioning democracy. While the mindset/culture/resource limitations of the time resulted in that being both discriminatory and classist, it's different today since we have universal standards of education.

Whether our current standards are good enough is a different argument

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by bgee »

gpm wrote: post #35
kyawzazaw wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

extra tariffs on iPhones. Look here: https://www.mi.com/in/

At the top of that page is the Redmi 9a for 6,799. Here is a similar phone from samsung for Rs. 6,499. https://www.91mobiles.com/samsung-galaxy-m01-core-32gb-price...

That Redmi has 8 cores (cpu released in 2020) compared to the Samsung with 4 cores (released in 2017).

On Antutu benchmark, the Redmi is almost 5x higher [0]. So I don't think they can be considered "similar".

[0]: https://gadgetversus.com/processor/mediatek-mt6739-vs-mediat...

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by mrath »

mayankkaizen wrote: post #93
green-bottle wrote: post #5

Like all other internet bans in India I doubt this one will have any teeth. Everyone has a "Free" VPN app that they use to bypass these restrictions. Most people own Android phones where they can sideload apps downloaded from some third party APK website (of questionable trustworthiness) iPhones have negligible penetration in India so are not even a part of the equation.

This is typical HN mentality to assume that other people are comparatively well versed in technical aspects. 99% indians (may be a little exaggerated figure) don't have any clue about VPN. Most don't even know how to side-install any app. So government actions do have some significance.

I don’t think that 99% is correct. I know my brother who never used a computer knows how to share apps without internet and play store. They install apps using shareit like apps.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by zolosa »

actuator wrote: post #95

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question wh…

They have already started the trade war.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by actuator »

zolosa wrote: post #115
actuator wrote: post #95

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question wh…

They have already started the trade war.

Has PRC also started it? It would be interesting if they go after critical components like semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, machinery etc.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by Aperocky »

actuator wrote: post #116
zolosa wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have already started the trade war.

Has PRC also started it? It would be interesting if they go after critical components like semiconductors, pharmaceuticals, machinery etc.

Why would PRC start a trade war with anybody when they're all largely customers.

China barely imports anything from India so there's not even a place to start.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by thevardanian »

d3nj4l wrote: post #74
sremani wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it is pure unadulterated nationalism, only one country would not be targeted. It is fair to say, China is a Clear and Present danger to Indian Union and in a war-like state banning games should not be that controversial. You do not want to fund the bullets being shot at your soldiers as much as possible.

Nationalist countries often have "the enemy". It used to be Pakistan for India until very recently. Now it's China, only because of recent events, and there aren't very many Pakistani apps to ban either.

Wait... People actually unironically believe this line of reasoning?

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by searchableguy »

green-bottle wrote: post #5

Like all other internet bans in India I doubt this one will have any teeth. Everyone has a "Free" VPN app that they use to bypass these restrictions. Most people own Android phones where they can sideload apps downloaded from some third party APK website (of questionable trustworthiness) iPhones have negligible penetration in India so are not even a part of the equation.

Good luck with pubg servers banning you especially with free vpns which I presume most indians will use.

They may also force pubg to include a unique device ban. You can't change device ID without rooting your device.

See: https://developer.android.com/training/articles/user-data-id...

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by _8j50 »

sova wrote: post #102
jeswin wrote: post #31

What I wish India would do is this: force Chinese phone companies to ship stock Android and full source code. They sell hundreds of millions of phones in India and will have to find middle ground, and the outcome will be good for everyone.

Okay, source code, then what about chip schematics and everything on the hardware layer you can't audit for?

Also, auto updates! They ship good code but selectively deploy backdoored updates sometimes
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