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China bans plenty of US apps and services. Facebook, for instance. They are exactly comparable.
If you comply with China's laws you can operate there. These US companies just don't want to deal with that.
But FB can do this in India and its ok ?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-executive-supported-in...
This is retaliation for China's unfair practices. It's not about propaganda, what videos are allowed or disallowed, or who might see which videos you watch. It's about the fact that valuable US tech companies aren't allowed to compete in China. If they were the trade deficit wouldn't nearly as bad. Now the Trump administration is hitting back. This is plainly and simply: Screw you, we're going to take something succe…
I suspect there's also more lobbying from more isolated (as in not general American) interest involved than people think. I initially thought it would come from the potential buyers like Microsoft but actually articles have mentioned Zuckerberg was throwing his weight behind it before it all took off.
Did the CCP really ban Facebook because of censorship or was it actually a protectionist move? Is the Trump administration threatening TikTok for the reasons it says or is it really about punishing China for its trade policy?
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I think OP means: > is largely unprecedented "in the US". As others stated, if the US wants to start using China as a country to base its precedents on, that's even more concerning in my view.
Countries blocking companies from operating on national security grounds is hardly new in the US or anywhere really. It might be the first US mobile app however I will grant you that.
Which companies currently banned in the US would you say are comparable to TikTok in terms of the threat they could potentially pose?
Regardless of what you think about TikTok, the banning of an app in the interest of "national security" is largely unprecedented. The jump from banning Huawei from building critical public infrastructure to banning an app that hasn't even conclusively been proven to behave in any uniquely dangerous ways seems to be an intense, unjustified escalation of this conflict. [1] You may disagree with me on the strict securit…
If TikTok were made in India, then you would have a good point.
Regardless of what you think about TikTok, the banning of an app in the interest of "national security" is largely unprecedented. The jump from banning Huawei from building critical public infrastructure to banning an app that hasn't even conclusively been proven to behave in any uniquely dangerous ways seems to be an intense, unjustified escalation of this conflict. [1] You may disagree with me on the strict securit…
> the banning of an app in the interest of "national security" is largely unprecedented. What kind of myopic fucking nonsense is this? Hsvd you not even heard of the Cold War ?
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Exactly! I am in favour of that. The EU protects its citizens but only to the degree it doesn't damage its relationship with the US. They need to grow some balls and stop treating the US as if it were its best mate. Clearly they are not and their laws do not protect foreign nationals in any way, or at least nearly as much as EU regulations would have them do.
On the flip side, forcing US companies to comply with EU regulations has benefits for US citizens and helps encourage the US to adopt similar laws.
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The USA has enemies, NATO has enemies. The short list is China, Iran, Russia, N Korea, Venezuela, Cuba. There are others, but these seem to get the most attention. Remember the Axis of Evil?
As 1984 put it ‘oceania has always been at war with eurasia’ edit: eastasia . Country’s have complex relationships. At the height of the Cold War the US and USSR still had some trade. It’s really propaganda that boils things down to allies and enemies.
(it's a Soviet plane running drugs, so it's OK, and the Mujahedein involved are run by a chap who went to Oxford, and are fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, so that's OK too)
This is retaliation for China's unfair practices. It's not about propaganda, what videos are allowed or disallowed, or who might see which videos you watch. It's about the fact that valuable US tech companies aren't allowed to compete in China. If they were the trade deficit wouldn't nearly as bad. Now the Trump administration is hitting back. This is plainly and simply: Screw you, we're going to take something succe…
> In addition, ByteDance on April 25, 2019, signed a strategic cooperation agreement with the Ministry of Public Security's Press and Publicity Bureau (公安部新聞宣傳局) in Beijing. The agreement was billed as "aiming to give full play to the professional technology and platform advantages of Toutiao and Tiktok in big data analysis," strengthen the creation and production of "public security new media works," boost "network influence and online discourse power," and enhance "public security propaganda, guidance, influence, and credibility," among other aspects.