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Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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How would that work? Non-sleeper's children are more likely to survive?

If not requiring a lot of sleep has an advantage in our society (which presumably it does) then all else being equal, a non-sleeper will produce more offspring. This is just evolution 101.

Assuming that societal advantage results in more offspring. Do the rich have more kids than the poor? I'm not sure that they do.

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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I sleep 2am to 7am most days and keep myself busy so much that I sometimes go to 3:30am before forcing myself to sleep. Sleep time happens within 3-5 mins after going to bed - according to my WakeMate.

I think alot of this is due to a busy lifestyle. I find myself doing multiple things at the same time in the evening and being very productive in getting stuff done. While on holidays where I actually disconnect from work I find I sleep long hours each day.

An afternoon 20 min powernap is an amazing recharge! Everyone should do it. Using Paul McKenna's audio helps with the powernap. There's something weird about the hypnotic audio. Instantly puts me to sleep.

Finally, supposedly the need to nap in the afternoon is normal and every animal in the kingdom does it. Humans has largely forgotten about this clock due to the "working culture". In the book Brain Rules, this is described in more detail: http://www.brainrules.net/sleep

My 2c's worth.

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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I think the level of sleep I need depends on what I'm working on. When I was working on a business with my friends, I'd only sleep for 4 hours or so a day. Whereas when I was working a job I hated, I was exhausted unless I slept 9-10 hours a night. I think sleep requirements are a function of brain activity and engagement. It's just a theory but it seems to be true, at least in my case. Another theory I have relates to the sleep schedules of people. I'm nocturnal. I have been since I was 8 years old. And when I was working with my friends, it was at night. So I wonder if nite people need more sleep to function during the day like morning people need more to work nights?

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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I emailed the researcher, whose address was at the end of the article with the appropriate gene data (BHLHE41 on Chromosome 12) to see if my DNA is a match. The article said its a mutation, but maybe those with the mutation exhibit a certain codon pair. Its an amazing time when you can read an article about such a thing, and then cross check your DNA in a matter of seconds. Articles will have to start posting the raw…

Just out of curiosity, why do you have your genetic makeup readily available for cross checking?

Adding to this, what are the potential ramifications of having accessed this data in terms of seeking health/life/other insurance? It seems a range of these services give insight into risk factors that I imagine insurers might not look favourably upon (given they're typically not able to do such screening themselves)...

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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In fact, probably more, since they also accumulate and compound valuable experience that much more quickly!

Probably less. Since most people have a day job, and work something like 8 hours a day, no matter what. Staying up longer just increases the time you spent spending money and consuming stuff. Sleep is a cheap entertainment.

You're assuming that everyone spends all of their waking life either working a day job or spending money/consuming stuff?

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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I'm glad that I finally have something (albeit thin) to point people to when they feel the need to lecture me about my sleeping habits. As long as I can remember I've been happy with a mix of 4 and 6 hour sleeping sessions, two or three days of 4 followed by one night of more sleep (typically 6 hours) and then back to 4 hours again. Under the recommendation of my peers and physicians I have attempted to do 8 hour nig…

The problem with "when hungry, eat", is that hunger is not really a good indicator for sustenance needs for humans. Living in western countries, we are surrounded by easily obtainable and addictive foods and nutrients. If we let hunger control our eating, especially in this kind of environment, most people tend to over-eat. Combined with recent results that caloric restriction and potentially intermittent fasting may be very healthy choices, I think it might be likely that hunger is really a maladaptation in modern society.

I do fully agree with the part "When tired, sleep". Unfortunately it is very hard to apply if I also want to maintain a working home-life with a significant other that has a different sleep-pattern.

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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For me, If I get all the sleep I want, I'm lethargic and unenergetic, but if I get less sleep I'm tired all day (but strangely more energetic). It's like there's no happy medium. I wonder if anyone else has this problem, and if there's a solution.

We're actually working on this problem over at WakeMate. Basically the solution is to sleep just enough to accumulate the number of sleep cycles you need to feel rested. We're building a tool to tell our users what that length of time is. I'll write up a post on the thought process/science behind it and put it up tomorrow.

Is it similar to http://sleepyti.me/ ?

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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Probably less. Since most people have a day job, and work something like 8 hours a day, no matter what. Staying up longer just increases the time you spent spending money and consuming stuff. Sleep is a cheap entertainment.

You're assuming that everyone spends all of their waking life either working a day job or spending money/consuming stuff?

No. But it's a factor to take into account.

Re: Why Some People Can Run on Little Sleep and Get So Much Done

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I emailed the researcher, whose address was at the end of the article with the appropriate gene data (BHLHE41 on Chromosome 12) to see if my DNA is a match. The article said its a mutation, but maybe those with the mutation exhibit a certain codon pair. Its an amazing time when you can read an article about such a thing, and then cross check your DNA in a matter of seconds. Articles will have to start posting the raw…

Just out of curiosity, why do you have your genetic makeup readily available for cross checking?

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