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OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
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#112It's inevitable that AI research will be more and more closed. AI is a weapon which is potentially much more dangerous than nuclear. It's naive to think that the most dangerous weapon will be accessible to a general public.
AI is dangerous when it is closed and inaccesseble to majority of people. Lets take deepfake. If it was closed and inaccessible to majority of people it could be used as a powerful weapon (making influence on politics, etc). Now when everyone has access to it and aware that that kind of fakes is not hard to make, it is not a weapon anymore. Of course you can still use it as a weapon, especially in not well developed…
I don't see how deepfake is less dangerous through it availability. Because everyone is now aware? That doesn't mean this tool has to be open. Also no one is making a proper fact-check nowadays and a deepfake attack can do a lot of harm anyway. Or maybe because you can retaliate with counter-deepfake? Well, that's just ridiculous.
What I see is that deepfake is used for a fake-porn videos with a known actresses or some ordinary people for harassing and blackmailing them.
I don't see how its availability saves lives.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Define misuse.
One obvious example would be to fully automate social engineering email scams. Imagine how much disruption it would cause if spearphishing became as common as robocalls have become post-automation.
Wouldn't the same AI be able to detect that the text was generated by itself ?
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
AI is dangerous when it is closed and inaccesseble to majority of people. Lets take deepfake. If it was closed and inaccessible to majority of people it could be used as a powerful weapon (making influence on politics, etc). Now when everyone has access to it and aware that that kind of fakes is not hard to make, it is not a weapon anymore. Of course you can still use it as a weapon, especially in not well developed…
I don't see how deepfake is less dangerous through it availability. Because everyone is now aware? That doesn't mean this tool has to be open. Also no one is making a proper fact-check nowadays and a deepfake attack can do a lot of harm anyway. Or maybe because you can retaliate with counter-deepfake? Well, that's just ridiculous. What I see is that deepfake is used for a fake-porn videos with a known actresses or so…
Because people are now aware that that kind of fakes exist and it is much harder to use fakes in more serious things like politics.
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#115Someone asked for a more nuanced perspective, so here we go. For a lot of AI researchers, OpenAI has been a huge disappointment. We had hope that OpenAI would be the company to democratize AI with good open source work, transparency, no PR bullshit (aka DeepMind), and evangelism. That they would develop in the open, and perhaps even do research in the open. You know, kind of like the name says. It all started out oka…
I don't see how this is a nuanced perspective - it seems to restate the same complaints/arguments just about every comment makes in these discussions. A nuanced perspective would look at the arguments as to why OpenAI is doing the things they are doing. For example: * OpenAI publishes in closed journals (actually conference proceedings) because that is where all the cutting edge research is published and reviewed. I…
> OpenAI publishes in closed journals (actually conference proceedings) because that is where all the cutting edge research is published and reviewed.
Ok. So whats the point of OpenAI then ?
Re: OpenAI should now change their name to ClosedAI
#116Funny how there's so much emotional processing here from the open-source community.
What started as a techno-utopian non-profit project has transformed into a well-branded very much for profit corporation, right under their noses!
I say good for them. Look forward to seeing how the tech plays out.
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#117I'm not surprised. Since I've seen S. Altman talking in one of his videos about "things that you (the employer) can't tell to your employees" I completely don't trust that guy.
Any video link?