On Trouser Pockets • Hacker News Board

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by flanbiscuit » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:42 PM UTC

ebg13 wrote: post #89

jessewmc wrote: post #55

The dismissiveness in this thread is unreal. From the comments you'd think the article only had one sentence insulting the Sanctity of Cargo Pants. If you happily wear baggy jeans or cargo pants, these are not for you and you don't have the problem they solve. It's an elegant solution to wear slim fitted pants without awful hip pocket bulges. Cargo pants are not the solution here, as they are huge and baggy and the p…

Absolutely. At first I was intensely disappointed by the post ("why so wordy?", "why no pictures?"), but then I got to the design part and said "holy shit I want this". If people are happy with their cargo pants, no worries . It doesn't conform to a lot of current fashion aesthetic, but if that doesn't hit a person's radar, then cool, great. But a lot of people in the thread here are feeling attacked because someone…

I also really want these! I wear slim-to-skinny jeans and my phone eventually stretches the jean fabric above the pocket and you can see a white outline of my phone. As manufacturers kept increasing mobile screen sizes I'd have to make sure my phone could actually fit in my pocket when buying pants as not every brand consistently use the same pocket depth.

Last time I wore cargo pants (probably the late 90s) I remember everything just annoyingly swing around as I walked.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by css » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

Forgive me if I am wrong or ignorant, but wouldn’t this design be very weak since all the weight of the items in the pocket falls onto one seam? Most pants anchor the pocket bag to the waist, which is much more durable.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by Kluny » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

I'm not even going to read the comments. These pockets meet my needs. Where can I buy the pants?

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by astatine » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:47 PM UTC

It is quite impressive, and slightly unreal, the variety of articles which get HN readers worked up.

But, truth be told, I enjoy these threads where I absolutely have no opinion and can look, sometimes in amusement but mostly in wonderment, at all sides of the debates.

Keep the passion strong, fellow readers.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by GuB-42 » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:49 PM UTC

Cargo pants are not the only pants with side pockets. I suggest that you take a look at hiking pants.

Hiking clothing is my preferred kind, even if I am not hiking. Here are some arguments:

- They tend to look neutral. Not flashy like other kind of sportswear, and not as obvious as cargo pants.

- They are comfortable, reasonably durable, and low maintenance. They are made for hiking after all.

- They tend to have plenty of pockets, including ones in the location recommended by the article.

- Zippers on pockets are common. Makes them safer. They usually have some sort of water resistance too.

- Speaking of water resistance, it is another great feature of hiking pants, they often have a hydrophobic coating (that doesn't always last unfortunately) and are designed to dry quickly. Rain doesn't only happen during hikes.

Of course, their neutral style is a negative if you want to make a fashion statement, but in a casual setting, if you don't care and don't want others to care, this is perfect.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by andrewshadura » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:49 PM UTC

SkirtCraft make great skirts for men and women with four deep pockets.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by saaaaaam » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

michaelt wrote: post #92

thebooktocome wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you missed the mark. Some people just like military cosplay a lot and get offended when you call out what they're doing.

I'll agree cargo pants are military cosplay if you'll agree that denim jeans are cowboy cosplay.

Blue denim jeans pretty much are cowboy cosplay. That’s why they got popular and why they remain popular. The close association with Marlboro Man rugged outdoorsy “masculinity” is an enduring part of their appeal. Even if people aren’t consciously aware of that association driving them when they appreciate a pair of blue denim jeans decades of advertising has undoubtedly inserted that stereotype firmly into the commmon (sub) conscious. Even the premium Japanese denim brands play with the semiotics of denim as “honest” or “rugged” or “no nonsense” or “not fancy” all of which are tropes drawn from the mid-century American ideal of cowboys as a picture of perfect masculine achievement.

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by mst » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

Nursie wrote: post #34

mst wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have what over here in .uk tend to be referred to as "combat trousers", where the side pockets are reasonably spacious (I can fit a 7" tablet in one, though it then doesn't close and I can't get anything else in there) but not sufficiently so that they swing. The only annoying thing is finding ones where everything including the hip pocket linings are made of the same heavy material, there are too many where that l…

Combats also tend to be closer fitting than US "Cargo pants" and can even look quite smart.

Right, with a decent pair of shoes combats and a button down shirt can approximate smart casual nicely.

Admittedly, the shoes I've settled on have a deep tread and steel toe caps, but neither of those really show if you aren't looking for them :D

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by andrepd » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

flanbiscuit wrote: post #111

ebg13 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely. At first I was intensely disappointed by the post ("why so wordy?", "why no pictures?"), but then I got to the design part and said "holy shit I want this". If people are happy with their cargo pants, no worries . It doesn't conform to a lot of current fashion aesthetic, but if that doesn't hit a person's radar, then cool, great. But a lot of people in the thread here are feeling attacked because someone…

I also really want these! I wear slim-to-skinny jeans and my phone eventually stretches the jean fabric above the pocket and you can see a white outline of my phone. As manufacturers kept increasing mobile screen sizes I'd have to make sure my phone could actually fit in my pocket when buying pants as not every brand consistently use the same pocket depth. Last time I wore cargo pants (probably the late 90s) I rememb…

That sounds like a problem with the obnoxiously large phones as well :p

Re: On Trouser Pockets

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Post by dirtyid » Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 5:57 PM UTC

GuB-42 wrote: post #115

Cargo pants are not the only pants with side pockets. I suggest that you take a look at hiking pants. Hiking clothing is my preferred kind, even if I am not hiking. Here are some arguments: - They tend to look neutral. Not flashy like other kind of sportswear, and not as obvious as cargo pants. - They are comfortable, reasonably durable, and low maintenance. They are made for hiking after all. - They tend to have ple…

Newer gen of military pants also have sensible and tested pocket placements. Front pockets are under-rated imo And spending more time out in due to covid, the knee pads are functional. Also surprisingly good fit if you can pull off tacticool. Some cool scandinavian work pants as well. Just need proper civilian patterns.

https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/APRCPE0032R