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Re: GitHub was down

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Post by sgt » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:25 AM UTC

Symbiote wrote: post #105

chvid wrote: post #59

Cool thing about git is that it is distributed and there is no single point of failure ...

It is. We all have our own copy of the repository, and can still distribute changes using any of the other methods: - A different central server - Email - A shared on-filesystem copy, e.g. local network drive - HTTP or SSH between developer computers (put your repository somewhere where your NginX or Apache serves it, the other developer can "git remote add chvid http://chvid.example.com/repository" ).

Do you really think the average developer using git has any idea about how it can be used decentralized?

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by miyuru » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:26 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #108

breakingcups wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See, I like the idea of K8S quite a lot. Enough that I decided to set up a cluster from scratch to figure out how everything ties together. I've since grown to strongly dislike how much of the entire ecosystem seems to depend on random unversioned Github gists or direct links into a raw file in a repo somewhere.

NPM is the same. You might think that all of the packages are stored on NPM servers. Mostly true, but still when you install some of them they'll download precompiled binaries or whatever directly from Github.

If you have IPv6, remove IPv4 to see how many tools break, because github does not have IPv6.

Composer is useless in a native IPv6 only servers.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by mro_name » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:28 AM UTC

Who would really rely on a single, external, free, no-guarantees service and not have redundancy to tolerate some hours of downtime?

Make github a mirror (at least source-wise) and you can benefit from it's outreach without being held hostage. Am happy with that e.g. https://notabug.org/mro/ShaarliOS/src/master/doap.rdf Inspired by https://indieweb.org/POSSE

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by bamboozled » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:30 AM UTC

mro_name wrote: post #113

Who would really rely on a single, external, free, no-guarantees service and not have redundancy to tolerate some hours of downtime? Make github a mirror (at least source-wise) and you can benefit from it's outreach without being held hostage. Am happy with that e.g. https://notabug.org/mro/ShaarliOS/src/master/doap.rdf Inspired by https://indieweb.org/POSSE

A lot of people pay for Github?

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by mro_name » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:43 AM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #114

mro_name wrote: post #113

Who would really rely on a single, external, free, no-guarantees service and not have redundancy to tolerate some hours of downtime? Make github a mirror (at least source-wise) and you can benefit from it's outreach without being held hostage. Am happy with that e.g. https://notabug.org/mro/ShaarliOS/src/master/doap.rdf Inspired by https://indieweb.org/POSSE

A lot of people pay for Github?

seemingly not enough :-)

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by robertlagrant » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:48 AM UTC

kkapelon wrote: post #100

yuppiepuppie wrote: post #84

ITT: Lots of Github hate. Dont forget that change in software is inherently risky and will result in bugs, etc. Id rather have a platform that is always looking to make things better and risking a bit of downtime, than a stale platform that we all know we depend on.

I think the issue here is that Github is considered a mature product and it just works. So is there any actual pressure to move fast and break things?

Yeah it feels they're just being pushed to out-everything Gitlab, to kill a competitor, before relaxing and stagnating.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by Chernobog » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 10:53 AM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #76

navanchauhan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no! What will you recommend as a long term solution? I have ordered a Pi 4, should I use an USB Flash Drive / HDD / SATA SSD?

Since the Pi4 can boot from USB now (might still be in beta, not sure if it's fully released), I would get a USB3 to M.2 adapter, buy a decent M.2 drive, and use that. It'll take up more space than the SD card, obviously, but not that much more.

You can even get SSD based USB sticks like the Sandisk Extreme Pro 3.1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7QDO7M

I bought one to run Windows on my Retina MacBook Pro. I only need Windows for gaming when visiting friends, and it works flawlessly for that purpose.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by andreareina » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 11:05 AM UTC

regecks wrote: post #55

Evidlo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The downside is that a lot of these self hosted archives will have disappeared 10 years from now. Meanwhile, I expect many forgotten repos to remain online with Github one way or another for a very long time. If you do go the self-hosting route, add a mainstream host as an additional remote and push your commits to both.

No guarantees either way - Google Code was alive and kicking, until it suddenly wasn't. I do appreciate how easy git and other dvcs make it to mirror repositories, though. I find myself using Github mirrors of projects that are otherwise self-hosted, just because the code search works on Github works pretty well.

Funny, I find myself cloning GitHub repos just because code search on GitHub works pretty badly (e.g. it doesn't pick up partial tokens). Haven't had the chance to compare to other solutions though.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by huffmsa » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 11:16 AM UTC

lprd wrote: post #8

This is slowly becoming a weekly occurrence ever since Microsoft entered the picture... https://www.githubstatus.com/

It really has been. Hopefully it's just because they're continuing to migrate systems from their previous host to Azure.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by chr15m » Mon, Jul 13, 2020, 11:30 AM UTC

navanchauhan wrote: post #6

jonny383 wrote: post #5

Seriously, again!? I am growing seriously impatient with this. It's been downhill since Microsoft took over. GitLab is starting to look good (or even Gitea self-hosted).

I might just self-host Gitea on my Pi today

I run a cosy Gitea hosting service over at https://hostedgitea.com/ for those who want their own private Gitea box without the hassle of deploying or maintaining it. Basically I handle all that for you myself. Just starting out but happy to get feedback!