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Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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Didn't Audiogalaxy used to be a P2P service in the early 00s?

It did. We are some of the same folks, but a totally different service now.

The second purchase I ever made online was an Audiogalaxy t-shirt. Thanks for the memories :)

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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"The 5 GB free storage plan is available to all Amazon.com customers, however further upgrades to the storage plan are currently unavailable in the following countries: Austria , Belgium , Bulgaria , Cyprus , Czech Republic , Denmark , Estonia , Finland , France , Germany , Greece , Hungary , Ireland , Italy , Latvia , Lithuania , Luxembourg , Malta , Netherlands , Poland , Portugal , Romania , Slovakia , Slovenia , Spain , Sweden , United Kingdom"

Very strange, why is that?

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #56

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I think it's bold of Amazon to launch essentially a minimum viable product and beat Apple to the punch. Now they have customers and are getting meaningful feedback to make future improvements. You rarely see this outside of Apple and startups. I'm glad to see Apple running into some real competition.

You can hardly say that Amazon has 'beaten Apple to the punch". Amazon's cloud product is aimed at Android Apple's cloud product will almost certainly ignore Android users because they'll use it to bolster the iPhone/iOS stack (+ enticement to switch to). They're aimed at two different markets.

Why can't Amazon bundle MP3 playback with their iOS Kindle app?

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #58

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The one where you searched from your browser and then opened some small hash file into the client which did the sharing, right? Not unlike the later BitTorrent.

Yeah, everything was browser based, except for the small app that ran on the desktop. We handled all the queues and the download scheduling on the server though -- no need for the client to open anything.

That was brilliant. I left the client up at home and could queue stuff up while at school. When I got home I had a bunch of new music to listen to. Great idea!

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #112

"The 5 GB free storage plan is available to all Amazon.com customers, however further upgrades to the storage plan are currently unavailable in the following countries: Austria , Belgium , Bulgaria , Cyprus , Czech Republic , Denmark , Estonia , Finland , France , Germany , Greece , Hungary , Ireland , Italy , Latvia , Lithuania , Luxembourg , Malta , Netherlands , Poland , Portugal , Romania , Slovakia , Slovenia ,…

I know that in Belgium there is a law where storage which can be used to play pirated media has a surcharge that is used to compensate authors for the possible loss of income because of the potential pirating.

Maybe this is a European directive and enforced in all of those countries, and they need to figure out how they're going to approach this law.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #78

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Go look at all the complaining from when the iPhone original was announced and came out. It didn't have a number of features that were considered at the time required: The original release of the operating system included Visual Voicemail, multi-touch gestures, HTML email, Safari web browser, threaded text messaging, and YouTube. However, many features like MMS, third-party apps, and copy and paste were not supported…

There's a huge difference between an MVP and cutting features to reach perfection.

Can you elaborate on that?

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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since when does Apple launch minimum viable products? that is the opposite of what Apple does.

Go look at all the complaining from when the iPhone original was announced and came out. It didn't have a number of features that were considered at the time required: The original release of the operating system included Visual Voicemail, multi-touch gestures, HTML email, Safari web browser, threaded text messaging, and YouTube. However, many features like MMS, third-party apps, and copy and paste were not supported…

I wouldn't call it an MVP - more what 37Signals call "half a product, not a half-assed product"

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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I wonder if they're doing anything clever to reduce storage size. For example - an MP3/AAC song purchased from the same service has a small unique header (e.g. where your iTunes account name is stored) and then identical music data. I imagine the music companies would have a hissy fit and demand streaming payments if that was the case though.

In my mind there is no question that they'll be doing de-duplication here. You don't need to rely on a header key, you just take something like a sha1 hash and the size. Services like dropbox do this - even making it so you don't have to upload non-unique files. I have always assumed that all of the non-encrypted remote backup solutions that live on s3 or elsewhere do this too. It's just too easy for a massive storage space savings to not do it.

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #96

It doesn't seem like they currently do this, but it would be great if Amazon applied file de-duplication (like Dropbox) to at least music files. If I'm trying to upload a song that Amazon already has on its own servers, it should just use that copy instead of uploading a new copy from my computer.

MP3.com once got in a ton of hot water for a version of that. They had an integrated ripping system that if they already had the content it just checked the "hash" of the TOC and granted you access to the music. In this way you could borrow a stack of cds and very quickly have access to all of your friends music.

I'm not sure if having to upload your music before it's de-duplicated makes a legal difference, but I bet it came into play. I have long thought of the possibility of hacking up the dropbox binary to fake hashes of known music I didn't have and get access instantly

Judge Jed S. Rakoff, in the case UMG v. MP3.com, ruled in favor of the record labels against MP3.com and the service on the copyright law provision of "making mechanical copies for commercial use without permission from the copyright owner." Before damage was awarded, MP3.com settled with plaintiff, UMG Recordings, for $53.4 million, in exchange for the latter's permission to use its entire music collection.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MP3.com#My.MP...

Re: Amazon Cloud Drive and Amazon Cloud Player

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post #71

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You can hardly say that Amazon has 'beaten Apple to the punch". Amazon's cloud product is aimed at Android Apple's cloud product will almost certainly ignore Android users because they'll use it to bolster the iPhone/iOS stack (+ enticement to switch to). They're aimed at two different markets.

Why can't Amazon bundle MP3 playback with their iOS Kindle app?

Possibly because Apple would then demand the option for iOS users to buy MP3s from Amazon through the app, and take 30% of those sales?
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