The Future of Online Identity Is Decentralized
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#112Correctly identified problem. Far too technical and obscure a solution for 99% of the world. I think Apple, while not a complete solution, shows a path forward with Sign In with Apple allowing you to generate a relay email. As always, whoever nails the user experience will win.
I agree this is where things need to move, but we need to make it so simple that users who don't care can still use it and those who do can get the most out of it.
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#114The future of online identity is centralized. China is already there. At age 16, you get your picture and fingerprints taken. If you get a phone, its ID is tied to your personal ID. Your WeChat account is tied to that ID. If you ride the subway or bus in a major city, or a train, your ID is recorded when you pay. A combination of phone tracking and facial recognition records where you go in some cities. It's even use…
(1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/06/25/irs-stim...
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#115https://urbit.org/
I see that they've updated their website since I last looked at it. They still use some abstract art and meaningless pictures of nature to explain their concepts, but at least the description makes sense now. Sadly the system cannot be used easily for any applications storing personal information since your identity is tied to a blockchain and the GDPR requires companies to make information deletable. The reliance on…
As to your second point, I'm curious if any decentralized system will ever allow for full deletion of information once it has been replicated by another client. Any gossip protocol, or decentralized CRDT document system has to take into account that a client will go offline and retain information once it has been released into the wild. Whether or not a request to "delete" or hide that information is followed through with is almost impossible to regulate. It's perhaps more important to realize that what we publish, may always exist out there.
That being said, clients could randomly ask for "tombstoned" information to verify that other clients comply to a delete request, but it will likely always exist somewhere.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. I've never understood that way of viewing things. For me identity is a right. The government must provide me with the means to prove who I am and my associated data like birth certificates, academic titles, health (vaccination), real estate and indirectly verifying identity for private contracts that use my national id card num…
"In an oppressive state identity surely could be oppression, just like everything else, but in a democratic country?" What makes you think a democracy can't be oppressive? Even in perfect democracies there is something called the tyranny of the majority, where the majority can oppress the minority. If we're talking about the US in particular, we have to recognize first that it's not even a perfect democracy, and ther…
All of human history is filled with bloodshed, tyranny, endless wars, conquering, slavery, piracy, vandalism, raiding parties, human sacrifice, religious battles and authoritarianism, with just a few punctuating moments of anything resembling democracy and recognition of human rights. That goes for every race, country, tribe, continent and creed. No heritage is innocent of that. That's the truth. 1776 didn't have to succeed. It very much could of ended with being squelched by the Crown and then where would we be today? Perhaps the Nazis would of won. Perhaps the Soviets would have developed imperial ambition in the absence of a strong US to keep them in check. Maybe the world would be a darker place. I suspect that without the U.S. that it would be, since that's the rule of history and not the exception.
Interning the Japanese Americans was of course wrong, but when you're fighting a world war and tens of millions are dying at the hands of Japanese (they slaughtered Chinese by the tens of millions)...it's very touchy isn't it? The lesser of two evils in that particular war was certainly the U.S.
Again, prior to world war 2 the world was still filled with imperial forces itching to conquer and enslave other people by the tens of millions. This is just 80 years ago...not that long ago. There was no where else in the world living up to the high ideals we seek to achieve today back then. The U.S. was that place for so many people to escape to. The Jews being one group. The Cubans being another. The Vietnamese being another. The Koreans being another. If you're going to paint the picture, paint it in the context of the world at the time and the subsequent actions in the wake of those problems. I think individuals deserve forgiveness after some time, and the same goes with nations, given that their behavior is corrected. There's nothing wrong with the movement towards more civil rights. But expecting things to go from millenia of imperialism to utopian democracy overnight, especially one saddled with so much legacy from that era, is naive. Again, it didn't have to go so well. It could have very gone south and ended up worse off for everyone.
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#117Have worked in the identity space for a long time. Authentication isn't a hard problem, but identity is. It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. Trusting authentication is not trusting identity, and the origin of identity is the Ur-problem because it comes down to questions of recourse, collateral, risk, authority, and legitimacy - which are all political economy que…
The conclusion ("It will be decentralized") doesn't follow from the argument though ("because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression").
It could very well be "just oppression" and keep being that...
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#118Have worked in the identity space for a long time. Authentication isn't a hard problem, but identity is. It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. Trusting authentication is not trusting identity, and the origin of identity is the Ur-problem because it comes down to questions of recourse, collateral, risk, authority, and legitimacy - which are all political economy que…
It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. I've never understood that way of viewing things. For me identity is a right. The government must provide me with the means to prove who I am and my associated data like birth certificates, academic titles, health (vaccination), real estate and indirectly verifying identity for private contracts that use my national id card num…
Historically "identity" wasn't a right, but something imposed on people, for better tracking and controlling them by authorities...
>In an oppressive state identity surely could be oppression, just like everything else, but in a democratic country?
Oppression is not about democratic vs totalitarian state. McCarthy and Hoover, to mention just two examples, reigned over others in the good ole democratic US of A.
Not to mention very few (if any) countries have actual direct democracy, or give the people say in how they want to be governed, from the constitution and downwards.
Re: The Future of Online Identity Is Decentralized
#119Have worked in the identity space for a long time. Authentication isn't a hard problem, but identity is. It will be decentralized because if it is not fragmented, it is literally just oppression. Trusting authentication is not trusting identity, and the origin of identity is the Ur-problem because it comes down to questions of recourse, collateral, risk, authority, and legitimacy - which are all political economy que…
>All the use cases for digital identity are about enforcement and liability, and there are almost none that anyone would volunteer for. Everything from a LinkedIn or Facebook account to your personal artist homepage with your CV on it establishes identity. People obviously disclose identity voluntarily, because identity is the primary means by which strangers establish trust. If your identity is not transparent to me…