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Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#111
this all seems like a lot of hassle to go through for some slightly smoother font edges. i like high res and high refresh rates and all that other good stuff, but i'd rather have slightly uglier fonts and not have to do an arcane dance every time i plug in a screen - i'm pretty sure that erases any negligible productivity benefits you might get from a better display.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#113

I found this article utterly baffling. The author clearly knows their stuff, having created Fira Code, but my experiences couldn't be more different. I spend most of my days in a text browser, text editor and text terminal, looking at barely moving letters. So I optimize my setup to showing really, really good letters. I certainly appreciate how nice text looks on a high DPI display. But for coding purposes!? I don't…

What's with the downvotes? HN is turning into Slashdot or Reddit, and that's not a good thing.

I clearly stated my point. Maybe you disagree. However, the downvote button is not a "disagree" button. It's for posts that actively detract from the discussion.

We need some kind of meta-moderation to ensure frivolous downvoters lose their downvote privileges.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#114
My take on having used quite a variety of displays: 1440p with a high (120, 144 etc) refresh rate is the way to go.

With 4K you can lose a lot of performance especially since they are often paired with integrated graphics. Also what's the point of a higher pixel density when it's higher than you can resolve? Meaning if you have to zoom that's a sign that you get nothing more from increasing resolution. Also despite claims to the contrary, a lot of software is still not well suited for 4k resolutions.

High refresh rates are completely underrated as it's at the same time a meme but also a widespread false belief that human eyes have some kind of limit that is being satiated by your 60hz displays. Scrolling code on 144hz is smooth.

Bonus point that isn't mentioned in the article: HDR is a meme, don't buy into that crap.

Also: CRTs are criminally underrated and still unfairly judged. We lost something from that era. Colors, black levels, subjective image quality and input lag have still not recovered from the peak of display technology in the year 2000 or so.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#115
post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

I feel like HN as a whole want blogs to come back, and part of that is well written exposition (the technical details) followed by near-outlandish opinions that tend to generate discussion. It's more fun, it leads to more conversation (here we are!), and clarifies our own values.

I think three monitors is distracting, but that whole community discussion gave me the opportunity to compare how I use a multi-monitor setup compared to others.

I generally dislike how fonts are rendered at floating-point scaling or lower resolutions, but I too just learned to live with it over years of ignoring it. Unfortunately, now I can't unsee it!

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#118
As far as I'm concerned, if I am going to buy a 4K monitor, I would probably go for a >40 inch one to be able to fit a lot of text on it rather than say a 32-inch Hi-DPI monitor. With subpixel rendering, fonts look good enough for me even on Lo-DPI displays. I'm just afraid that with Hi-DPI becoming more and more common, subpixel rendering will eventually disappear...

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#119

It's frustrating that consumer Hi-DPI display development has completely stalled in the last five years. As mentioned in the article, macOS works best using true 2x integer scaling. Using 2x scaling, a 4k monitor will result in an equivalent workspace to a 1080p display—unusable for productivity and development. A superior option is iMac/LG 5k display results which nets an equivalent workspace of 1440p. The only opti…

Why is everyone so attached to scaling? What is this shit software that 1) everyone relies on and 2) whose UI and font size can't be adjusted like any normal software (or web page) since the 90s? Is this yet another brainfart from Apple?

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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After using a rMBP for 6 years, I realized that using a lower resolution and lower quality display makes absolutely no sense at all if both graphical power and budget is available (first 13' rMBP had some serious issue driving the display). Better quality image is better quality image. I think Apple's biggest selling point over any vendor right now, despite numerous issues with its hardware and software in the recent…

I've been focused on Apple display products for the past few months as I'm looking to make an upgrade from the Dell P2715Q 4k 27" I use primarily for development. There is a three page thread on using the Apple 32" XDR for software dev on MacRumors. [1] I believe there is a major product gap at Apple right now in the mid-market display. Specifically a replacement for the LED 27" Cinema Display which was announced 10…

> 27 inch IPS display, 5120 x 2880 @ 60Hz with standard glass at $1999

That's $200 more than it costs with the computer built in. Would rather see it more aggressively priced, or at least bring back target mode.

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