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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by mansion7 »

daenz wrote: post #33
nsainsbury wrote: post #4

I think a key phrase here is "he was dismissed for publicly challenging a colleague’s silence". In other words, he publicly harassed a colleague who (for what could be any number of perfectly valid reasons) preferred not to publicly state their beliefs. That would seem to me to be an eminently reasonable reason to fire someone. If you go around publicly harassing your colleagues to publicly state their political opin…

This is the world we're moving towards. People have been more outspoken in these past few years about demanding "hard conversations" from family and peers. This mindset taking root in the workforce is the logical next step. You can't shut it down or else you're "part of the problem." You can't ignore it and be silent or else you're "part of the problem."

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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by baddox »

dekhn wrote: post #97
baddox wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's not mob rule, that's completely and absolutely how the legal US government operates. Those aren't mutually exclusive. Middle school civics class explanations of the electoral college are fine. You can understand the reasons the electoral college was created and still oppose the fact that there have been multiple recent cases where the electoral college went against the popular vote. And, not that it's partic…

Oh, I'm personally against the electoral college (have been since I was a kid). However, it's still not mob rule, by the virtue of the fact that mob rule is necessarily non-legal, while the electoral college is the essence of "legal". And the people who set up electoral college (the authors of the constitution) explicitly added a mechanism to change the system via amendments (it's just very hard to get one passed). C…

> However, it's still not mob rule, by the virtue of the fact that mob rule is necessarily non-legal, while the electoral college is the essence of "legal".

Okay. I'm not attached to the particular semantics of "mob rule," but if you define it deliberately such that it doesn't apply in this scenario, then of course it doesn't apply. I just meant, very simply, that it's rule by someone other than who the people expressed their desire to be ruled by.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by donw »

dlp211 wrote: post #46
holler wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree. It's endemic of the political and cultural climate we're in right now, where mob rule is becoming the status quo. Personal politics should be just that, personal.

> where mob rule is becoming the status quo. The Government of the US is currently (mostly) controlled by a party that received fewer votes.

No, only the current President received less of the popular vote. The government is more than just the President. Congressbeings are elected via direct election in their districts.

The Electoral College is working as designed. It was never intended to implement a direct democracy.

Here's a video that goes into more detail on the Electoral College and the Popular Vote Compact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUX-frlNBJY

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by cmdli »

derision wrote: post #69
alasdair_ wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a quote said in 1967 by Miami police Chief Walter Headley who was talking about how he will respond to protests against the police. For context, he also said he was against "young hoodlums, from 15 to 21, who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign. ... We don't mind being accused of police brutality" The Chief got the phrase from the guy who used firehoses and dogs against children during the Birmingh…

If you read "young hoodlums" and think of certain race maybe it's your own bias shining through. Where I grew up on Ohio the kids I considered "young hoodlums" didn't happen to be any specific race

From context, it's pretty clear who he is talking about.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by thrwaway69 »

JohnBerea wrote: post #5

> Trump’s posts included the racially charged phrase “when the looting starts, the shooting starts” How is that racially charged?

If you wanna believe the man who said that.

Here's the actual tweet explaining it - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12664341539328942...

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by bsamuels »

underwater wrote: post #37
_rn wrote: post #6

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Yeah this is a strange and pretty misleading headline. Here’s the primary source tweet: https://twitter.com/aweary/status/1271522288752455680?s=21

The original tweet is more telling. https://mobile.twitter.com/aweary/status/1267895488205869057

The first few replies are even more telling. When someone tells him that calling out a coworker is in bad taste, you get this gem

>oh no Arthur thinks I'm rude, how will I recover

https://twitter.com/aweary/status/1267927023596400642?s=20

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by saagarjha »

baddox wrote: post #107
saagarjha wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, I think the electoral college was introduced precisely to ensure that the person who won the election was not who would win the popular vote.

That's certainly not the case. The electoral college was designed such that each state's legislature chooses how to attribute their electoral college votes. Many states in the first few presidential elections just had their state legislatures assign the votes. But still, I find it difficult to believe that the people who designed the electoral college would think it's okay that we held a national election, we got to…

As I understand it, many of the founding fathers explicitly feared that general populace would vote poorly and wanted people who were educated and had access to sufficient information to make a decision to do so on their behalf.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

Bullying for a good cause is still bullying. It feels like a lot of righteous bullies out there don’t want to put in the real effort of changing minds, so they take up their pitchforks in public forums. It’s hard work influencing people for the better, it takes a lot of empathy and a lot of patience.
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