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Be careful with this, some recipes are subject to copyright law. I think you can list ingredients of a recipe with no problem, but once you get to exact measurements and prep it somehow switches over to falling under copyright law. There used to be a bunch of open sourced recipe repos/databases...but almost all of them are gone.
Aren't there dumps of the bygone ones anywhere?
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It's definitely grown worse now, but I think that this originated from recipe sites that people actually used to follow, because the blogs were interesting and we got to know the writers, and what's changed is more that we're jumping to the first Google hit and we expect them just to grant us the information we wanted. There is a difference between opening up a recipe site, like a favorite blog, or the New York Times…
I think it's also about different types of recipe collections. There are cookbooks that are all recipes. This seems to be what the HN crowd is looking for when they search the internet. There are cookbooks where each recipe is accompanied by a little story. These seem to sell well, judging by the number of them that appear on bookstore shelves. And then there are cookbooks where all of the anecdotes are in the front…
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It's a running joke in our house. I start off wanting to make some mashed potatoes, and time and time again, I have to suffer through someone's life story--the camping trip in North Dakota when Susan's husband first discovered his love of homemade sour cream--etc. Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards.
> Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards In German there's chefkoch.de. It's full of ads but its core is basically a big DB of user-submitted recipes without fluff. Don't you have something like that in English?
The further from the UK one is, the less useful this is. The measurements should only be a problem in the US and Canada, but common ingredients can change -- e.g. the fat content of cream, or whether canned tomatoes are salted or sweetened. Also, if you're from the rest of the world, you might wonder why they've forgotten the herbs and spices :-)
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It's definitely grown worse now, but I think that this originated from recipe sites that people actually used to follow, because the blogs were interesting and we got to know the writers, and what's changed is more that we're jumping to the first Google hit and we expect them just to grant us the information we wanted. There is a difference between opening up a recipe site, like a favorite blog, or the New York Times…
I think it's also about different types of recipe collections. There are cookbooks that are all recipes. This seems to be what the HN crowd is looking for when they search the internet. There are cookbooks where each recipe is accompanied by a little story. These seem to sell well, judging by the number of them that appear on bookstore shelves. And then there are cookbooks where all of the anecdotes are in the front…
But it's not at the end. The actual structure of a modern recipe article is
1) Header
2) Blogpost
3) Click to read button
4) More blogpost, structured in a format that looks like an informal recipe - bulleted ingredients without quantities, discussion of steps.
5) Ad.
6) More blogpost
7) More ad that looks confusingly like a kind of recipe.
8) More blogpost
9) Nav that looks like the end of the blogpost.
10) More blogpost
11) Ad
12) Recipe ingredients
13) Ad
14) Recipe directions
15) 20 pages of chumbox, some of which structured in a way that kind of looks like a recipe at a glance.
Combined with some wonky JS that doesn't show the content until a half-second after I scroll it into view.
When I've got the recipe it feels like I've found Waldo.
But how will I read about "Dakota", an avid yoga enthusiast who just happens to be a mom, who enjoys making healthy and savory meals for her family while blogging? Seriously, I hope this spells an end to the Google ranking imposed nonsense that makes the simple act of searching for a recipe so insufferable.
It's definitely grown worse now, but I think that this originated from recipe sites that people actually used to follow, because the blogs were interesting and we got to know the writers, and what's changed is more that we're jumping to the first Google hit and we expect them just to grant us the information we wanted. There is a difference between opening up a recipe site, like a favorite blog, or the New York Times…
So, Google actually encourages open semantical web? That is news
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It's a running joke in our house. I start off wanting to make some mashed potatoes, and time and time again, I have to suffer through someone's life story--the camping trip in North Dakota when Susan's husband first discovered his love of homemade sour cream--etc. Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards.
“Why doesn’t everyone who is putting information out there for free not cater to exactly my needs”. What an utter load of bollocks. These are people who are creating something that they enjoy doing and giving you information you apparently need for free. I don’t understand why anyone would trash their desire to write something that is personal and/or interesting to them about it. And that’s setting aside that these u…
There's no arguing about it making recipes more "readable" when you have to scan down page after page to get to the actual ingredient list. That's super annoying. To put it into perspective, if the recipe was at the top, and the blogger wanted to spend five chapters talking about their life afterwards, more power to them, I wouldn't care a bit.
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And, the real farce is that Google mistakenly sees all that scrolling up and down the page, looking for the recipe as 'engagement' and "Dwell time".
Is that mistaken? Does no one click on ads on the page while doing this?