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Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by 101404 »

nabla9 wrote: post #104

Finland has mandatory military service for males. So every year you most of the young men (mostly age 18 to 20) into a controlled environment and go through standardized testing and observation. - Physical fitness has gone down, overweight goes up. - Intelligence peaked among those who were born in 70's and has been in slight decline last 18 years. Similar results can be seen in other developed countries. - Anxiety d…

> Finland has mandatory military service for males.

How is that kind of institutionalized sexism still legal?

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by pkilgore »

nabla9 wrote: post #104

Finland has mandatory military service for males. So every year you most of the young men (mostly age 18 to 20) into a controlled environment and go through standardized testing and observation. - Physical fitness has gone down, overweight goes up. - Intelligence peaked among those who were born in 70's and has been in slight decline last 18 years. Similar results can be seen in other developed countries. - Anxiety d…

Would love to read more, you have a source(s)?

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by [deleted] »

pjc50 wrote: post #52
ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #42

Wow, that’s so sad. Y’all raising your kids horrible, no bueno whatsoever. America was born in a tavern. Ben Franklin was a real lady killer. Churchill saved our world mostly hungover. Jimmy Hendrix really thought he was a Martian These kids will never amount to anything. Lost generation. Hope there’s a huge backlash...there has to be, human spirit isn’t built for such a sad and pathetic life - hell, at this point, I…

Dehumanising and dismissive. "Please do not post shallow dismissals to HN" about tens of millions of people.

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Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by hanklazard »

nabla9 wrote: post #104

Finland has mandatory military service for males. So every year you most of the young men (mostly age 18 to 20) into a controlled environment and go through standardized testing and observation. - Physical fitness has gone down, overweight goes up. - Intelligence peaked among those who were born in 70's and has been in slight decline last 18 years. Similar results can be seen in other developed countries. - Anxiety d…

This is fascinating. Do you have a link for where we can read more about the data?

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by fallingfrog »

Let’s not forget that this is all taking place in an environment where wages are going down, the environment is getting worse- this generation is likely to make less money and have a much more difficult life than, say, the boomers. There is no stability anywhere, no guarantees of anything. Once upon a time you could skip college and still get a union job at a mill or something that would allow you to buy a house and support a family comfortably. That’s gone now. That has to be part of it.

I often hear boomers complain that kids aren’t taking enough personal responsibility or that they’re entitled and it just makes me crazy. They are growing up in a much harder world than the one the boomers faced and it’s not their fault at all.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by kick »

switch007 wrote: post #90
_5yps wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not true that nobody's fucking. The LGBT kids fuck to an extent, as do some of the lower achievers, but even then it's nowhere near as much as I expected. I'm surprised to hear you compliment my writing style. I always thought it was subpar - too many clauses, a slew of unnecessary qualifiers and weasel words, no shortage of kludges for things I can't express very well. I tend to be better at it after I've been…

> The LGBT kids fuck to an extent, as do some of the lower achievers, but even then it's nowhere near as much as I expected. I'm trying to be charitable and not over-interpret the juxtaposition of "LGBT" and "lower achievers". I'm surprised you have so much time to study who is having sex. Quite remarkable.

It might actually reflect your own prejudice a bit that you're interpreting it that way. Speaking as a rainbow myself over here, it's...not unlikely? Throw a bunch of teenagers or young adults in support groups together with the subtext that they all have the same sexual orientation with no chance of being shamed for making advances for what's effectively the first time in most of their lives, and it doesn't take a fortune teller to figure out what's probably going to be happening in greater rates for those kids.

And there's definitely evidence that lower academic investment is correlated with higher sexual activity; I've been up for dozens of hours now so forgive me for not throwing some papers in your direction, but they shouldn't be hard to find.

I don't think it's healthy for anyone to really analyze this stuff for any demographic, but acting like what he said was so awful was really out of line, and pretty clearly breaking HN's guidelines.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by Majestic121 »

nabla9 wrote: post #104

Finland has mandatory military service for males. So every year you most of the young men (mostly age 18 to 20) into a controlled environment and go through standardized testing and observation. - Physical fitness has gone down, overweight goes up. - Intelligence peaked among those who were born in 70's and has been in slight decline last 18 years. Similar results can be seen in other developed countries. - Anxiety d…

That's pretty interesting, do you have any link to read a bit more about all this ? I'm having a hard time finding relevant links on google

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by pantalaimon »

_5yps wrote: post #77
mnky9800n wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, the second tier of Carnegie Mellon and Cornell. Lol.

Second-tier compared to the world's top universities; that is, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford and their ilk. I've seen posts on this website[0] how some big tech companies almost exclusively skim off the top. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15543371

There is plenty of work, why focus so much about the big tech companies? The notion that you have to jump through hoops to get a tech job is pretty ridiculous. If you know your stuff you’ll have no trouble to find a job even without a degree from a fancy school.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by namelosw »

Kids are so less adventurous nowadays.

I'm not sure about teenagers, but for college students, it's more obvious. I believe it's because society is less forgiving - young people spent a ton of money or taking loans, work hard at school, cannot find jobs that are not stressful and underpaid. Or couldn't even find jobs at all. One step wrong and they would be screwed.

Re: Teenagers are better behaved and less hedonistic (2018)

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Post by [deleted] »

_5yps wrote: post #27

16-year-old here. My experience is probably markedly different from most teenagers in the US (I'm an immigrant who goes to a competitive school full of other immigrants) but I find that, for the most part, this article hits the nail on the head. High School is nothing like the usual media portrayal - I've never heard anyone even talk about a party, nobody's doing anything stronger than weed, nobody's fucking or even…

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