The interface looks like vscode.
Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
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Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haven't tried it myself but you can always go to the code and do it yourself : I think the confusion here is that https://open-vsx.org/ requires github which is normal, they can require whatever they want you can even go in and add something else => https://github.com/eclipse/open-vsx.org or roll your own : https://github.com/eclipse/openvsx
Why wouldn't you just say, "oops, I was wrong" instead of.... whatever you're trying to do right now?
hahah I was just trying to help but yeah sure : "oops, I was wrong trying to help ungrateful assholes on the internet"
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not both? User testing won't help you with questions like "there's a bug in feature X, but the fix will potentially impact feature Y in unforeseen ways. Given we're shipping soon, is it a good idea to apply the fix now or should we apply a much simpler mitigation and postpose the full fix till next iteration so we can get more testing in or even implement a larger refactoring that would resolve this category of b…
Why not both? Because you respect your users and know their privacy has value.
I'm interested in your point of view. If I run a query that tells me X hundred thousand users have used feature Y, have I violated anyone's privacy in your opinion?
Also, would you think it's better to not collect such non personally identifiable user information at the expense of quality and stability of product?
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#114And in what sense VSCode isn't a "true" open source app? Just because the installer isnt open sourced? > Theia relies on Visual Studio Code’s Language Server Protocol to provide language-specific code completion and the other features we expect in a modern code editor. https://www.infoworld.com/article/3342624/cloud-ide-shoot-ou... Okay, they reuse parts from VSCode in true open source spirit and make claims like tha…
No comment on the authors other claims, but VSCode is not open source. "Code - OSS" is the open base upon which VSCode is built. VS Code's branding, telemetry and more are closed-source. See https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-1... for a full explanation.
So we talk the Installer, the brand/icon (which is good that it is strictly owned by one entity) and literally settings. These do not make the product less open source (I do not dare to use the term free). Linux is free software, however RedHat is not. You can do everything with the OSS version you can with the VS Code.
However, there are extensions delivered in the Brand VS Code (Remote Server SSH/Docker/WSL) which are closed source (which compete against Eclipse Che). And that makes since a bit muddy.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#115And in what sense VSCode isn't a "true" open source app? Just because the installer isnt open sourced? > Theia relies on Visual Studio Code’s Language Server Protocol to provide language-specific code completion and the other features we expect in a modern code editor. https://www.infoworld.com/article/3342624/cloud-ide-shoot-ou... Okay, they reuse parts from VSCode in true open source spirit and make claims like tha…
When I read it, it seemed like the decisionmaking for the software being under corporate control was their primary issue. VS Code will always be developed in a strategy aligned with Microsoft's interests.
Like for most modern open source. And that is usually a good thing. Even free software are not developed in public but under tight control of a group of persons. Just that we call them maintainers, do not pay them and their interest is usually glory or their own use instead of marketing of a cloud product.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#116I mean, do they think we are idiots? Visual Studio Code is clearly open source with an MIT license. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode EDIT: OH WAIT - I see - they forked at least parts of Visual Studio Code and then open sourced it. In other words -- proving that Visual Studio Code is open source.
None of the code seems to be a fork Visual Studio Code is indeed not open source. If you grab, the binary from Microsoft it is slightly different than the code on the GitHub repository because Microsoft applies some Microsoft-specific things. The extension repo is closed source as well. It has long been a requested feature for open-source extension repository variants.
Code-OSS is open-source however.
So no they do not think we are idiots.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#117VSCode is open source. This is a misleading title
The Visual Studio Code distribution from Microsoft is not open source. Code-OSS is open source and that is the vscode repository on GitHub. The relationship is very much like Chromium and Chrome.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#118If this is intended to be a VSCode alternative, where are the download area? Why the strong emphasis on cloud? A version 1.0 with no package released? need top run it on docker? I don't want to sound negative, I would really want to download it an try it... but from what I see in a quick glance, they want me to setup a whole cloud to use this, not how I envision an editor that is trying to take on the most popular ed…
Theia is a platform to build IDEs not an IDE. And it is focused on cloud usage and not desktop based usage.
At least that what I read and understand.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
The installer and binaries distributed from Microsoft are not OSS.
So build it yourself? Like seriously are we really nitpicking over the installer and binaries now which the source is available for the actual product? It really feels like the industry is never happy if it has anything to do with microsoft.
The extension repository is also not open source.
Re: Eclipse Theia 1.0 – Open-Source Alternative to Visual Studio Code
#120I think the only way to beat vs code at this point is to implement IDE in a native language without GC. VSCode , eclipse etc can be very sluggish on large-ish projects, slow downs accumulate with code base size growth leading to usability problems, slow autocompletion etc.
But that is how IDEs used to be. vim, kdevelop, qt creator, texstudio, ...