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Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by buran77 »

close04 wrote: post #31
fartcannon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don't think there's a justification for using it, however it's not stealing, it's copyright infringement. Additionally, the loss is not one to one. Each pirated video does not equate to a lost sale. The fact that people imply that is ludicrous. Man, I haven't said that stuff in like 20 years. Takes me back to naptser day. Now someone ask me if I would download a car!

Sometimes as a legal user you are faced with far more obstacles than the illegal user. All kinds of limitations that are made to curb piracy but actually just hurt legitimate users. This applies to every type of protected content, be it music, video, games, ebooks, etc. This makes paying users less likely to sympathize with the content provider. And then you see those transparent attempts to skew numbers so they can…

Not sure why this is getting down voted. Outside of official statements from the content providers, who are happy to bury their heads in the sand and pretend the flagged problems don't exist, general consensus is that most anti-piracy measures ruin the experience for legal users far more than for pirates. Pirates might accept lower standards of service given the all time low price of free. Paying customers of course have much higher expectations.

And the fragmentation of titles across platforms doesn't help one bit. We're basically heading to the same situation with today's cable business.

Personally, living in a country whose language I don't master means many of the titles in my Netflix catalogue are unwatchable. Anime being in Japanese and only dubbed or subed in the local language and nothing else. In English speaking countries the exact same titles have English sub or dubbing.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by dylan604 »

pachico wrote: post #83
severine wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fellow Soulseeker here. The compensation copyright tax ended in 2011: Cancellation of the fee On March 24, 2011, the National Court annulled the order that regulates the rates applicable to the various devices and supports recorded with the digital canon. The reason is that, because it is a regulation, it needed procedures related to supporting and economic reports that were not carried out. On July 12, 2011, the Con…

Nothing to feel sorry about! I don't know how I could have missed that but I'm so lucky it ended! Having said this, I still find myself entitled to search for copies of cultural material I like :) Still, too lazy/don't have the time to do it.

> I still find myself entitled

I think that sums it up pretty well. Thanks for at least being honest about it.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by jjulius »

pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

>I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it?

Not sure if you've heard of it or not, but Discogs might be a great place for you to source and purchase a used copy of those albums.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by sschueller »

CJefferson wrote: post #102
1_player wrote: post #7

Say what you will about stealing, illegality, unsavouriness. If the film industry would collectively take their head out of their arses and provide such a simple interface and wide catalogue to the masses, they would make hundreds of billions. I would literally pay $50 a month for an official and legal version of this. The end users don't really care that it is not possible because "legal reasons". This app proves ot…

An official and legal version of this wouldn't be $50/month, it would be more like $200/month. It includes movies from every major company, and films while they are still in the cinema.

That isn't far off what cable costs...

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by _ea1k »

q3k wrote: post #15
awicz wrote: post #4

Serious question about torrents: How is this not stealing? I'm not trying to be judgemental. I certainly don't have any room to do so as I used Napster and the likes back in the day. Now with the advent of Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, etc, I'm genuinely curious to know the moral argument for using services and platforms that utilize torrents to distribute media other creators are actually trying to sell? Edit: Appare…

We were fine for a while. Netflix killed film/series piracy for me - for a while it literally made no sense. Then, every copyright owner realized they want a slice of the streaming cake - (HBO, Disney+, all the cable networks...) and started making their content exclusive on their platforms. Now, instead of a single Netflix (or anyone else, really) subscription I would have to pay for a dozen, that I would rarely use…

I remember when people complained that cable wasn't à la carte. Now we complain that streaming services are à la carte. Its a fun cycle.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by dylan604 »

pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

>I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed

I applaud the effort at legitimately trying to get a copy. However, sounds like an opportunity still might exist. Small record labels are always hard pressed for cash. Maybe there's a business deal to be made. I'm sure they would be open to licensing the music to you. You could then release the album yourself, or maybe a compilation album with tracks from other artists in the same style of music. Now you have the opportunity to bring that music to a wider audience based on your interest while maybe making a little money on it as well.

This is HN after all. Maybe there's some new website you can make that allows cash strapped record labels to distribute the music legitimately using some new programming language of the day. You could then write up a Show HN and let us all know. We might even be interested.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by kkarakk »

jjulius wrote: post #113
pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

>I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? Not sure if you've heard of it or not, but Discogs might be a great place for you to source and purchase a used copy of those albums.

I tried using this, 1st of all the music was in CDs by a third party seller - which is not a deal breaker but may be to some others.

However,seller declined to ship me discs(to india) even though i was willing to pay shipping. He said customs tends to seize items like music cds

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by jjulius »

kkarakk wrote: post #117
jjulius wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? Not sure if you've heard of it or not, but Discogs might be a great place for you to source and purchase a used copy of those albums.

I tried using this, 1st of all the music was in CDs by a third party seller - which is not a deal breaker but may be to some others. However,seller declined to ship me discs(to india) even though i was willing to pay shipping. He said customs tends to seize items like music cds

Ah bummer! :(

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by sbarre »

pachico wrote: post #44

I'm a huge fan of swing manouche (jazz style developed during the '40s). I can't find albums in legal sources that I can instead find in Nicotine++ (a Linux version of the old Soulseek). What should I do? Accept that I won't find it? I remember once writing to an Aussie record label asking for a copy of an old album of Brett Garsed. They told me I wouldn't find it here in Europe nor they had the means to send it to m…

I mean, one of the answers to your question is in fact: "accept that you do not get to consume that media".

I'm not advocating for or against what you are choosing to do, but the position of "it's my only choice" is not really accurate. You have no inherent right to that media.

Popcorn Time and other P2P file sharing tools are convenient, but let's not be hypocrites about it, they enable illegal behaviour and allow you to go against the wishes of content creators, denying them both revenue from and control of their creations.

Re: Popcorn Time 4.0

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Post by dfxm12 »

sschueller wrote: post #114
CJefferson wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An official and legal version of this wouldn't be $50/month, it would be more like $200/month. It includes movies from every major company, and films while they are still in the cinema.

That isn't far off what cable costs...

I'm not sure what you're getting at. First, when I had cable it was more like $100/mo, which included internet access. I also didn't get films still in the cinema with my package.
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