Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

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Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

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Post by ebrenes » Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 2:44 PM UTC

adrr wrote: post #83

sneak wrote: post #52

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Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and I am not your lawyer. Salespeople lying, within certain limits, does not seem to be treated as fraud by most governments, caveat emptor and all. If they tell you the alcohol on the cruise will be free and you sign a contract saying so, and then it actually isn’t and you have to pay more, that’s one thing. If they tell you it’s going to be sunny and warm when you’re taking a cruise to…

Saying “demand is high in Caribbean” is fine since the definition of demand is subjective. Saying coronavirus doesn’t affect warm weather places is criminal.

The issue is that any competent law firm will pull up articles and comments by officials stating that warm weather will dampen or hinder COVID-19 spread. They would only need to pull up a video of Trump stating as much and make a case that it's "reasonable" to believe the president.

And even more serious sources basically say: "we don't know at this time", which is not enough to make these actions criminal (as per current laws, per my limited unprofessional understanding).

Re: Leaked Emails: Norwegian Pressures Sales Team to Lie About Coronavirus

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Post by Mathnerd314 » Sat, Mar 21, 2020, 3:53 PM UTC

arnaudsm wrote: post #110

Mathnerd314 wrote: post #90

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uBO is temporary in the way Debian is temporary - i.e., in the short term, not at all. 80% of the top websites are going to be ad-free and working 80% of the time, for some value of 80%. It's true that some fraction will not work, but is any consumer software 100% reliable?

I'm calling uBO temporary because adTech is evolving to evade adBlockers (in-domain tracking and ad obfuscation). Surfing the web is a nightmare for the average user, and the tech industry barely notices. The web has an unsustainable business model, and we need to address the issue.

In-domain tracking and ad obfuscation have both been around for years. And uBO has evolved to address them. There is content-based blocking/filtering for in-domain, and script injection to defuse obfuscation. I'll agree there's an arms race between ads and ad blockers, but it's like DRM, in that the home team (ad blockers in this case) always wins eventually.

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