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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by airstrike »

chapium wrote: post #61
fergie wrote: post #38

PSA: if you are not already using it, and you care about the future of humanity, then give Firefox a(nother) go. Its actually quite good these days.

Its still not great though :( (relatively speaking)

I had been a hardcore Chrome user since the comic book days and switched back to Firefox last year.

Imported my passwords and bookmarks and the transition couldn't have been smoother. I still have Chrome installed but haven't opened it more than a handful of times since.

What about your experience hasn't been great?

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by sp332 »

callmeal wrote: post #49
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #7

It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…

>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.

This is one of those mysterious things that hits certain people's accounts and not others. Here's a thread with suggestions from 2012. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4477361

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by benjaminjackman »

sp332 wrote: post #109
drewg123 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox As a firefox user, the thing that annoys the hell out of me is the inability to use the mouse menu for cut and paste in Google Docs unless you're using chrome. I don't understand why it forces you to use the keyboard shortcut. I'm an emacs user, and find the windows-y keyboard shortcuts foreign, so I have to think about them, and p…

I just tried this in Firefox and it worked fine?

I think it was recently fixed, because I remember getting the messages gp mentions but haven’t for a while now.

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by simias »

andrewmutz wrote: post #98
callmeal wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.

"Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by malice" -Hacker News

This is a systematic issue with many of Google's services. They have the money and manpower to test their interface on Firefox. We're talking about a modern, generally standard-compliant browser here, not IE6. Getting those websites to perform decently on Firefox shouldn't be a problem for Google.

I can believe that they don't purposefully break Firefox for the sake of it, but it's clear that they make no effort to make their websites compatible and they don't appear to consider these issues like bugs. If it works on Chrome then it's good enough. I suspect that internally compatibility issues with Firefox are not even considered bugs at all, it's just the way it is and it's up to Mozilla to fix their browsers to be compatible with Chromium (I have no insider knowledge, but it's the way it feels from the outside).

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by terminaljunkid »

fergie wrote: post #38

PSA: if you are not already using it, and you care about the future of humanity, then give Firefox a(nother) go. Its actually quite good these days.

I am wary of Mozilla, a completely suit-ruled shitshow that is technically incompetent because of that, as much as I am wary of Google.

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by Retric »

judge2020 wrote: post #100
amelius wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms Why don't webdevs fight back and put "best viewed on Firefox" pop-ups on their pages (whenever the user is using Chrome).

I don't see how that would be a true statement in almost any context, barring specifically using features that you know Chrome doesn't work well with or going through the chromium bug tracker to find things to do that break Chrome.

If developers use Firefox instead of Chrome you do get some rendering bugs in Chrome. Standard compliance have gotten much better, but at one point in my last project Edge, Safari, Chrome, and Firefox where all doing different things while I was trying to fix an odd CSS issue.

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by kingofpandora »

drewg123 wrote: post #103
thaumasiotes wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty interesting article. > "Google Chrome ads started appearing next to Firefox search terms. Gmail & [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox. Demo sites would falsely block Firefox as 'incompatible'," he said. > "All of this is stuff you're allowed to do to compete, of course. But we were still a search partner, so we'd say 'hey what gives?' And every time, they'd say,…

> [Google] Docs started to experience selective performance issues and bugs on Firefox As a firefox user, the thing that annoys the hell out of me is the inability to use the mouse menu for cut and paste in Google Docs unless you're using chrome. I don't understand why it forces you to use the keyboard shortcut. I'm an emacs user, and find the windows-y keyboard shortcuts foreign, so I have to think about them, and p…

I used to have this problem but the behaviour has changed and it works fine now.

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by lallysingh »

scoutt wrote: post #77
Santosh83 wrote: post #62

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Okay, I get it, but in that case the marketing is doing engineering a disservice when they implement needlessly aggressive and redundant advertising of Chrome on properties and user agents which ought to be almost 100% identical functionality in Chromium based (if not web standards compliant) browsers. To put it plainly I can understand if Google promotes Chrome when there is a genuine technical feature on one of the…

> marketing is doing engineering a disservice I've never seen a company where both marketing and engineering agree on something. Marketing thinks we are a bunch of nerds and we think marketing floors have a much less density regarding neurons per square meter (so, in way we are both right). By the way, marketing always win. They are closer to upper levels, the credit for success is (supposedly) theirs. They suggest a…

Do they even know that Edge is Chrome based?

Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side

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Post by kingofpandora »

callmeal wrote: post #49
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #7

It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…

>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.

I use FF exclusively and GMail works just fine - no delays.

Not sure what the captcha on Firefox 'feature' refers to but nothing springs to mind as not working in that department either.

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