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Re: Nissan Leaf

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Post by sambeau »

JulianMorrison wrote: post #90

I'm a little worried about losing what is to me one of the main advantages of Flash: that it can be blocked. So your all singing, all dancing website shuts the hell up and behaves like a sedate page full of text and static images. I mean, I can block JS, but it's irritating to have to. That's generally used for useful things like navigation. Flash marks something up as useless pizazz.

This is a worry for me too. I'm a long-term ClickToFlash user. I've enjoyed my time in a flash/ad/animation-free web but am horribly aware that it is temporary.

As HTML5 takes over we will see more unstoppable content - pop-up panels, intrusive advertising etc.

I just wish we could pay for the web without all this crap.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#112

Post by delackner »

anthonyb wrote: post #98
mynameishere wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Derp. There are many applications that I cannot run on my computer because my computer isn't an apple. All of these could have been written in flash, and thus been cross-platform. Apple doesn't like flash, because they want people tied to their platform. (Obviously, I'm not talking about plain javascript here, though.) One of these days, a "must have" killer app is going to come around--that could have been written i…

What are you talking about?

Maybe he's a sock puppet that needs to back-fill some believable human look and feel?

Re: Nissan Leaf

#113

Post by _b8r0 »

mynameishere wrote: post #94
nfg wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about?

Derp. There are many applications that I cannot run on my computer because my computer isn't an apple. All of these could have been written in flash, and thus been cross-platform. Apple doesn't like flash, because they want people tied to their platform. (Obviously, I'm not talking about plain javascript here, though.) One of these days, a "must have" killer app is going to come around--that could have been written i…

What killer app is only available in Flash?

Re: Nissan Leaf

#114

Post by delackner »

I'm surprised no one has suggested the obvious reason why making a site like this is not necessarily "wasted extra effort" for Nissan. When Apple's iAd platform was unveiled, they demoed... a Nissan Leaf ad. That ad content had to be written in javascript, so it probably wasn't a huge leap to say hey let's push that content out to the web as well.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#116

Post by enobrev »

A lot of grandiose claims in hopes of the death of Flash around here. As though Flash has never done anything good for anyone.

I agree that it's nice that the browsers are now supporting new features that allow so much well needed functionality across the board - but they're really just now catching up to what Flash has offered us for years.

Forget all-flash websites. Seriously, forget them. I like the OP's site about as much as I liked flash intros from 2001 before they started adding "Skip This" buttons. I'm referring to media players, socket clients, file uploading tools worth using, vector animation, a decent programming experience that worked across the board (AS3 is actually a fun language if you give it a real shot).

Where would the web be without Youtube? Where would Youtube be without Flash? How about last.fm? or Pandora? Do you remember what the web was like before flash? Real Player, anyone? Java applets? I'll take a flash game over a Java applet any day. Regardless if you use these media-centric sites personally, they changed the internet as we know it - making it accessible to normal human beings. To disregard Flash's place in that history doesn't make any sense.

And it's far from over. The browsers STILL haven't gotten media playback right across the board. Everything's a big fat beta right now and IE is dragging us behind as usual. It would be nice if everyone could at least agree on a codec or two, but no. Meanwhile, flash-based media players still work just about everywhere.

I'm happy that the browsers are catching up with Flash - truly. I loved developing in Actionscript, and I'll love replacing it. But these claims that Flash is somehow the bane of the internet is to deny some of the very foundations of how successful the internet has become.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#117

Post by 51Cards »

"Say hello" to a REALLY slow running website and my hardware ain't that shabby. Running FF 3.6 It's very cool but a little too much too soon for general consumption IMO.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#118

Post by MediaBehavior »

r00fus wrote: post #74
fleitz wrote: post #55

One should note that if you pull the site up in IE it still uses flash, which means we still need flash. Unless you're willing to say goodbye to 40% of your customers.

It even pulls up Flash in Safari5 (w/ clicktoflash plugin).

Yes. But I nearly clicked on "clicktoflash" decal because it took a couple seconds to kick in.

Re: Nissan Leaf

#119

Post by quiesce »

_b8r0 wrote: post #113
mynameishere wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Derp. There are many applications that I cannot run on my computer because my computer isn't an apple. All of these could have been written in flash, and thus been cross-platform. Apple doesn't like flash, because they want people tied to their platform. (Obviously, I'm not talking about plain javascript here, though.) One of these days, a "must have" killer app is going to come around--that could have been written i…

What killer app is only available in Flash?

Only the Oxford English Dictionary app comes to mind, terrible (content aside, hence managing to retain “killer” status) and ugly as it is.

However, it in no way stands as example of either good design or the strengths of Flash.

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