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Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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Would've been great if they had used a Thinkpad keyboard like on the Novena: https://www.crowdsupply.com/img/b4cb/novena-954-edit_jpg_pro...

Yeah, except that that's A) the designer, artisan variant, and B) a whole different class of device. IIRC, it uses a semi-integrated standalone wireless keyboard, which would add a whack ton of thickness to something that's marketed as being fairly small.

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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Seeing all that empty internal space makes me wonder if they couldn't increase the device's appeal by fitting it with a bigger battery. 8-10 hours of charge time is good, but a $200 laptop that could go for (say) 20 or 30 hours on a charge would really turn heads. I suppose it's possible that would require some kind of custom battery, and this is just the most appropriate battery for this enclosure they could get off…

The other way to go about it is to shrink the screen from 14" to 12". I would prefer this configuration.

Or 13" and a slightly bigger battery. Oh yeah :)

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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An "annoying touchpad" is likely a dealbreaker for me. It's the holy grail for Linux to me and I feel like it's never been solved by anybody but Apple (w/o Linux). That being said, I could exist in the command line most of the time...

Google's modern Pixelbooks have it pretty close, coming from someone who uses a Magic Trackpad all day at work. Not perfect, but really close. As I understand, Apple's magic trick was basically feeding the trackpad inputs through the iPhone's touch logic.

The Pixelbook touchpad is pretty bad. It's way too small, and it's not easy to right click without moving the pointer. Thank god it has a touchscreen.

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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Actually it doesn't ban them, it just says that you don't need any special approval if you have less than two 100Wh batteries. Which is odd, because most people have more than two batteries if your counting batteries contained in devices like laptops/cellphones/etc. This regulation seems to apply only to standalone batteries. For context 100Wh is only about 2x most normal laptops. A few systems with secondary batteri…

The link says that only batteries above 100Wh count against the 2 battery limit. There doesn't seem to be any limit to smaller batteries.

Your right, back to elementary school to work on my reading comprehension.

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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I've been tempted by these as semi-destructible machines for my young kids to cut their teeth on. The oldest has a Chromebook but reinstalled with GalliumOS which has been perfectly adequate so far. I'd be intrigued to see a direct comparison between these as two ultra-cheap Linux options.

Why are children these days ‘allowed’ to ’destructive’? I was using my mother’s NeXT Cube back in the early nineties when I was about eleven or twelve and it’s still in mint condition. It was made very clear to me that allowing me to use it was an enormous privilege and that if I had in any way damaged it there would have been hell to pay and I have absolutely no doubt that my arse would’ve been kicked into tomorrow…

I dunno, I think it might make them more fun in internet discussion forums.

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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The really nice thing is that the RK3399, while an old and not particularly fast ARM, has almost entirely open documentation. A bit of googling should land both parts of the TRM, which covers every bit of the SOC's registers and devices minus the Mali. The follow-on RK3588 announced last year with 4x A76's (and 4x A55s) in 8nm should completely crush the RK3399 performance wise. If it comes with open documentation to…

Does it use any proprietary blobs to boot? I have yet to see a GPU without them, and you said "almost", so I assume the answer is yes?

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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Sure. So charge $250 or $300 for the one that goes 30 hours.

They specifically don't want to have too many SKUs to manage. Adding an option for an extended battery would double their SKUs. The management side of Pine64 is pretty barebones.

This is an opportunity for an aftermarket.

Re: Trying out the Pinebook Pro – a $200 ARM Laptop

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According to [0] the limit in the US is 100Wh, so you could fit a battery that is three times bigger (assuming 3.3V). I don't know what the relevant numbers are elsewhere. [0] https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/...

Actually it doesn't ban them, it just says that you don't need any special approval if you have less than two 100Wh batteries. Which is odd, because most people have more than two batteries if your counting batteries contained in devices like laptops/cellphones/etc. This regulation seems to apply only to standalone batteries. For context 100Wh is only about 2x most normal laptops. A few systems with secondary batteri…

High end 15+” laptops tend to go right up to the limit. The XPS 15 and MBP 16 both have ~100Wh.
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