Epstein didn't kill himself. Video footage "accidentally" deleted and the backup footage also lost due to "technical errors." His death and a cleanup so slovenly and brazenly done in front of the public eye is a mockery of America as a nation of "liberty and justice for all."
This happens MUCH less today than at any time in the past. Only 2 generations ago, stuff like this was happening on a daily basis everywhere in the world. This was basically what justice used to be. The world is not fair. There is little justice. But it's more fair and just than it's ever been before, by far. Maybe we've taken a step back in the last 10 years. It's hard to say. But compared to even 50 years ago, we a…
Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great claims require great evidence. Your claim makes me increasingly skeptical, but I require a lot more. What is the best, least crackpot looking resource to dig into the _facts_?
The cctv footage existed, it has now been ‘accidentally deleted’. The chances of this happening on a high profile case are infinitesimally small. So on the contrary the great claim requiring evidence is that this was a completely normal suicide in prison. Where is the evidence this video was deleted by mistake? https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/01/10/us/09reuters-peop...
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hear you. But the absence of evidence is not evidence of a crime. You've got your reasoning inverted. "Show me the evidence that there isn't a giant space walrus on the far side of Neptune. Otherwise we must conclude there is one. " I'd like links to sensible aggregate sources and discussion. I don't want to have the discussion here.
Debating that there wasn't a conspiracy is different than debating if he killed himself (which can't be proven). So far, there has been a coordinated effort to obscure accountability and records. This is SOP for the US Federal Government, when trying to hide misdeeds from the US population. Typically, we only get windows into what happened later when political opponents need ammunition or decades later when there are…
I'm always so dissatisfied when I ask for evidence for these things.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
"America" is different than "everywhere in the world"
There’s plenty of data showing that conditions have improved around the world. There were way more socialist and right wing dictators in the 1970s. Even in the early 90s than today. Extrajudicial killings, independent courts, poverty via failed economic ideologies or resistance to adopting modern industry/markets, etc has all significantly declined and conditions have improved. The world will always need constant mai…
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you provide links to _anything_ you just said?
Epstein's was the first suicide in MCC in 21 years: https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/suicide-supposedly-nearly-impo...
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#116From the report http://factfindingjan2020.mit.edu/files/MIT-report.pdf Professor Lloyd's dealings look very, very shady: > Professor Lloyd remained friends with Epstein after his conviction in 2008. He visited Epstein at his office in Florida during the period of Epstein’s criminal sentence. Professor Lloyd also visited Epstein’s private island, though for only a few hours for lunch, and he has acknowledged Epstein i…
That's quite a charitable characterization! The conference in question wasn't just any "off-campus conference" -- it was held on Epstein's island.
Minsky had also organized a two-day symposium on Epstein's island several years prior (in 2002), a fact also totally omitted from the report.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
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It would appear to be $50,000 plus $125,000 if I'm reading that last note correctly.
The $60,000 gift in "2005 or 2006" is the only one the report says was deposited into his personal bank account. Because it was not sent to MIT, "this gift ... is not included in the $850,000 in" total donations the report indicates were accepted by MIT. In contrast, the $125,000 is included in the $850,000, as indicated by the breakdown in the table on page 9. Thus, though not stated explicitly, the report indicates…
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
This happens MUCH less today than at any time in the past. Only 2 generations ago, stuff like this was happening on a daily basis everywhere in the world. This was basically what justice used to be. The world is not fair. There is little justice. But it's more fair and just than it's ever been before, by far. Maybe we've taken a step back in the last 10 years. It's hard to say. But compared to even 50 years ago, we a…
Holding up Epstein’s likely murder as evidence of progress is deeply fucked up. I hope you have values.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's more likely that he or people around him pulled strings so he could kill himself rather than he be killed.
If he's powerful enough to pull strings to kill himself, why wouldn't he pull strings to disappear? If I want a conspiracy theory involving Epstein's power here, it's going to be that this is how you disappear if you're powerful enough, and the phrase "Epstein didn't kill himself" is correct not because his death wasn't a suicide, but because it's not his death.
Re: Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs
#120From the report http://factfindingjan2020.mit.edu/files/MIT-report.pdf Professor Lloyd's dealings look very, very shady: > Professor Lloyd remained friends with Epstein after his conviction in 2008. He visited Epstein at his office in Florida during the period of Epstein’s criminal sentence. Professor Lloyd also visited Epstein’s private island, though for only a few hours for lunch, and he has acknowledged Epstein i…
I find it very hard to believe all these scientist didn't know what was going on nor would I be surprised to find out they participated in it.
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