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Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by josephorjoe »

ttul wrote: post #91
remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

Software developers should realize that as their salaries increase (and I'm not even talking about FAANG), companies that are selling SaaS and software solutions have to charge more in order to continue doing the fine work of developing stuff. At the same time, investors are demanding that their portfolio companies begin to take profits after years of blasting away money in favor of growth-at-all-costs. In my SaaS co…

"Customers hate it, but" <-- remember that for the company post mortem.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by themagician »

xwowsersx wrote: post #102
remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

> Software should be expensive. Why? Shouldn't the price of software be determined by the equilibrium of supply and demand? Or are you suggesting there's far more demand than supply?

It’s a hard realization for many that software will become like any other industry and that software jobs are just as at risk as others to automation and late stage capitalism.

You always think of yourself as the exception, until it comes for you.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by JaggedJax »

sdoering wrote: post #80

> Existing customers using the free version of Postman can lock in 2019 rates by upgrading to the existing Postman Pro annual plan or Postman Enterprise before February 1, 2020. So if I understand that right, there will be no free plan from 1st of Feb going forward. Or do others read that differently? I should probably start looking for alternatives and saving my API documentations from Postman somewhat better.

They have confirmed the free version is sticking around the same as today. They are just telling people who are considering upgrading to the paid version that if you do it right away you can lock in the old rates for 1 year.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by penagwin »

tus88 wrote: post #100

Curl is free man.

I enjoy testing HTTP endpoints by bit-banging an ethernet cable so that I don't have to buy a computer.

In all seriousness - Regardless of the solution Postman/Postwomen/Insomnia/Paw/etc - People use these tools so they can easily manipulate any part of their query, without needing to lookup curl flags and nuances.

Serious question: How do you construct complex curl requests? Do you do it all on the command line? Or you do it in a text editor? If you want to change the field of a form for your post request, how quickly can you change it? Curl is a great tool, but for sandbox-like usage it's just too clunky of a UX IMO.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by endorphone »

remote_phone wrote: post #86

Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages. I hate how people complain about paying for things that are useful for them. Most people expect things for free or very cheap and I blame the Apple App Store for that. Everyone expects their software to be free or $0.99 nowadays. Even $3.99 is considered too expensive. All this is doing is creating deflation in our industry. Software should be expensive…

The belief that software should be free long precedes any app stores ("I paid $N for the computer, why should I have to pay for the software‽‽‽"). It's especially weird to peg the blame on the Apple App Store given that it has managed to get people to spend billions on flippant stuff they would never have paid a penny for.

In the pre-app store days it was incredibly difficult to make a business selling software if you weren't one of the very large players.

Having said that, to address-

"Companies need to make money. People need to be paid good wages"

-this would be fair retort if it was a new service charging {X}. If it isn't, the counter-argument is that they were undercharging to prevent competitors from making money / paying good wages.

I'm neither here nor there on this, but it certainly isn't a moral thing that you're holding it as. People are annoyed that they're going to have to pay more for less. Eh.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by chasingthewind »

tus88 wrote: post #100

Curl is free man.

I'm not defending them in the least (see my post on yesterday's discussion) but Postman isn't just a UI over curl.

The primary value add is the ability to organize groups of related requests and then run them as part of a test suite and assert against the outcomes. It's essentially a test tool for REST APIs that's accessible to a less technical audience.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by davidwparker »

lowdose wrote: post #107
gmaster1440 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem like it supports Windows, so in many people's case (including mine) not a viable alternative. Otherwise looks like a great product.

I don't know any dev on a Windows setup, it's either Linux or MacOS. So this is a very serious question and I even up voted you out of interest. Do you own the admin rights to your dev work setup?

I recently switched to Windows w/WSL after ~9 years on OSX, and ~7 years before that on Linux.

It's been challenging in some regards, but it mostly just works. It's also been a breath of fresh air. I've found paying the Apple tax just not worth it anymore (riddled with bugs and paying a lot more for the same level of hardware).

Note: I have admin rights.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by miket »

skrowl wrote: post #84

https://insomnia.rest/ is a pretty great alternative. The only thing you don't get for free is data syncing. https://github.com/frigus02/RESTer is a Firefox (or Chrome) extension that does most of the same stuff that PostMan does without requiring a standalone client install.

Seconded on Insomnia - I switched to it when encountering a bug in the encoding of the curl command generation in Postman, and haven't looked back.

Re: Announcing Updated Postman Plans and Pricing

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Post by Semaphor »

lowdose wrote: post #107
gmaster1440 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem like it supports Windows, so in many people's case (including mine) not a viable alternative. Otherwise looks like a great product.

I don't know any dev on a Windows setup, it's either Linux or MacOS. So this is a very serious question and I even up voted you out of interest. Do you own the admin rights to your dev work setup?

Windows, C#, formerly Visual Studio, now Rider. Of course with admin rights. Do you realize .NET is pretty big in the business world, long before it even became cross platform with netcore or there being a crossplatform IDE?
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