Google management shuffle points to retreat from Alphabet experiment

Post by scarface74 » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:02 PM UTC

drawkbox wrote: post #104

scarface74 wrote: post #100

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They beat them to online documents, spreadsheets, storage by years. Google Docs launched after they bought Write.ly in 2006. Lots of teams don't even use Office anymore and use online office like Google. Yes lots of places still use Office but there is no denying Google beat them online and it was Microsofts share to lose. Being first is just a nerd victory like saying Apple was the first desktop operating system wit…

> Being first is just a nerd victory like saying Apple was the first desktop operating system with a GUI. “Winning” in a for profit business is profit. Before Google Docs / G+ suite there was really only Office. Now everything is Google vs Office 365. Most small/medium even startups use Google Docs as it is good enough. Yes like I said, entrenched Microsoft companies use Office and Office 365 is finally good and is w…

Post by ukyrgf » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:10 PM UTC

tim333 wrote: post #10

>Placing the head of Google, which contributes more than 99% of Alphabet’s sales, at the helm of it could call into question the entire purpose of Alphabet I think this gives a false impression of the value of the non Google bits of Alphabet Currently the market cap of Alphabet is $924bn and "Waymo is worth about $105 billion" ( https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-27/waymo-val... ) which would make that 1…

Post by tyingq » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:11 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #109

tyingq wrote: post #23

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In this case, AMP doesn't help much...it's still downloading a ton of crap. 464 requests and 12MB of garbage for an AMP hosted article. https://imgur.com/tPHaHIO

That's because you are running in a simulator and not doing ad-blocking. Here is the real deal, 1.9MB and took 12 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/XcsNEsp The actual Bloomberg page was 5.3Mbytes and took 30 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/zBaOzeD If 3X improvement in loading time and data transfer is not much of a help, I don't know what it is. USERS like AMP because it is an actual imp…

Post by Animats » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:12 PM UTC

dzdt wrote: post #5

As usual, I like Matt Levine's take. [1] Page and Brin ran Alphabet as a highly funded system of moonshot programs with near-infinite runway to make profits, which is unusual or unique. Basically it only worked that way because Page and Brin were idealistic visionary gazillionaires who were bored of thinking about the somewhat dirty business of selling targetted ads. With a more standard corporate governance under a…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:14 PM UTC

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tyingq wrote: post #4

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