Does anyone know of a successful server-based peer-to-peer project other than TOR and cryptocurrencies? I'm all for breaking free of the stranglehold of centralized proprietary platforms, but it also seems to me that most of the open source projects that ever really succeed at competing against entrenched proprietary incombents are the ones where a centralized service is being provided by a non-profit (e.g. Wikimedia…
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#112The peer-to-peer storage and sharing of video files isn't the hard part: it's the ability to search for and discover content that makes YouTube compelling in my opinion. Are any of these p2p YouTube replacements presenting a compelling way to search/discover content in a distributed way? Or if the search index is centralized, do any of them have a compelling model for staying funded without selling everyone's search/…
Ideally we’d see blogs return as the curated content mediators.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think hosting a niche video site is more PT’s speed anyway. There are plenty of video makers that have an audience that would follow them them to a new platform and PT is one way to do that and (possibly) keep more of the cut that YT is currently taking now. As long as YT stays dominant they’re always going to have the advantage of availability and discovery so it’s honestly not worth competing for makers on that f…
> keep more of the cut that YT is currently taking now. Keep more of what cut? AFAICT, YouTube creators make money from two primary sources: YouTube ads and Patreon. The latter is independent of YouTube (i.e. YouTube doesn't get a cut). The former seems very closely tied to YouTube. How would an independent creator even go about sourcing ads to show on their independent site? Do they want to put in the effort? Would…
I'm pretty sure networks on Youtube are able to provide alternative ads on channels part of their networks already.
Any Youtuber can also put bake ads directly in their videos too, all the big ones already do that either in sponsorship, or literally as ads (see Linus Tech Tips as a reference).
So essentially PeerTube doesn't add anything in revenue, it only remove Youtube ads network (which can provide quite a bit of money without any effort in ads).
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#114The peer-to-peer storage and sharing of video files isn't the hard part: it's the ability to search for and discover content that makes YouTube compelling in my opinion. Are any of these p2p YouTube replacements presenting a compelling way to search/discover content in a distributed way? Or if the search index is centralized, do any of them have a compelling model for staying funded without selling everyone's search/…
> discover content Discover heavily sponsored content from content farms. As an experiment, even with an old account, start just browsing the content Youtube highlights. You will soon end with a recommendation page full of shit with 500K+ views using the same template.
I have a very old account and browse suggestions using my brain, not randomly. While not perfect, almost every recommendation right now looks like something I could watch.
Bicycling, civil engineering, cat toys, and weird metal music mashups, which are all similar to things I intentionally watched, but haven't watched.
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#116here's a startup idea for you all. :-)
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#118I setup a peertube and companion mastodon just about a year ago. I mostly used the peertube personally. A few weeks later I noticed some user was uploading movie rips so I disabled the user account in the barebones admin user interface and set a user data limit at 2 gigabytes, the server had tons of space and this seemed generous. Fast foward EOM, what appeared to be the same user created an automated system to creat…
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#119peertube will not catch up unless someone creates an advertisement market place for PeerTube, so content creators can monetize their content outside YouTube here's a startup idea for you all. :-)
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#120My problem with peertube is - if I install it and federate I'll have all sorts of illegal videos on my computer. Nazi propaganda, child porn, anything. I'm not going to spend hours moderating that, and I certainly don't want to explain myself to police. And if I don't federate it's basically less convenient ftp.