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Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by laurentb »

bsamuels wrote: post #102
SpikeDad wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a race drone. That's a completely different audience. What do you mean underpowered? Compared to what?

Let's say you're flying a race drone in windy conditions. you're aiming for a gate that you're going to fly straight through when a large gust of wind hits. You now have to compensate for that wind to correct your trajectory, and that can take a LOT of thrust depending on how large the gust was and how fast you need to correct the trajectory. It's possible for the maneuver to require so much sideways thrust that you…

ok and what does all of this looks like when you're not comparing it against a race drone? Parent comment makes a good point I think, in that the Mavic line has never been geared towards "race drones" so comparing/judging those models based on a certain category that they qualify themselves out of is kind of moot.

I'm in the market for a drone at the moment (eyeing the mavic air over the mini to be honest) for holiday type shots, all this racing stuff is pointless as far as I'm concerned. I can't figure out based on your comment whether the wind will screw a wide shot or not, it might not make it through a circle, but i'll never get this drone through this sort of activity anyway.....

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by Rebelgecko »

bittercynic wrote: post #20

Anyone know how to use the video downlink from DJI drones without the rest of the system? If there is a forum out there for hacking DJI's stuff, I haven't found it yet.

On older DJI Phantom drones you could ssh into the drone and pump the video into ffmpeg or wherever. I think they became more proprietary and locked down so I don't know how easy this is to do nowadays.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

#113

Post by greenknight »

pc86 wrote: post #74
gok wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it unethical to drive just under the speed limit?

Yes, because you're likely the only one on the road going so slow :)

unless you live in a country where speeding isnt common place ;) in Aus, atleast where i am, most people stick absolutely on the speedlimit.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by bsamuels »

laurentb wrote: post #111
bsamuels wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say you're flying a race drone in windy conditions. you're aiming for a gate that you're going to fly straight through when a large gust of wind hits. You now have to compensate for that wind to correct your trajectory, and that can take a LOT of thrust depending on how large the gust was and how fast you need to correct the trajectory. It's possible for the maneuver to require so much sideways thrust that you…

ok and what does all of this looks like when you're not comparing it against a race drone? Parent comment makes a good point I think, in that the Mavic line has never been geared towards "race drones" so comparing/judging those models based on a certain category that they qualify themselves out of is kind of moot. I'm in the market for a drone at the moment (eyeing the mavic air over the mini to be honest) for holida…

If I have a drone with 8:1 TWR and I have to bump my throttle by 20% to compensate for wind, a drone that has a TWR of 2:1 is gonna lose altitude and fail to maintain position.

I realize now that the way I described it in my parent post doesn't make very much sense

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by amelius »

post_break wrote: post #34
blhack wrote: post #23

Wow, very cool! As others have pointed out, being under the weight limit set by the FAA is basically THE selling point. Ethical question: are DJI the good guys here working within the rules set out of the FAA, or are they running afoul of the spirit but staying within the letter?

This is how all laws work though. Rifle minimum barrel is 16" so they make 16" barrels. Wifi can only put out X watts max, they put out the maximum by law. There are no ethics in following a laws minimum or maximum.

Only if companies do it. If a person continuously seeks the boundaries of the law, that person is generally called an asshole.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by sneak »

dewey wrote: post #27
sneak wrote: post #15

As someone who wants hardware that does what I instruct it to after I have purchased it, regardless of the manufacturer's wishes, I don't think I can support buying DJI's otherwise-excellent products any longer. The firmware updates and activation locks and flight restrictions imposed by the DJI Go app are too onerous. If I buy a tool, and the tool now belongs to me, the manufacturer attempting to restrict my use of…

It seems like a pretty reasonable default to prevent people from flying in no-fly zones or impose height limits next to airports I think. As that’s security related and not some artificial limitation so they can up sell something else I don’t see anything wrong with that.

If I buy a tool, the only person preventing me from breaking the law with that tool should be me.

Otherwise it’s not my tool, it’s in service to the manufacturer, the government, or some shade in between. Those aren’t good tools, because they can only be used for certain purposes, in certain circumstances.

I prefer tools that do exactly what I wish them to do, for better or worse.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by sneak »

landcoctos wrote: post #17
sneak wrote: post #15

As someone who wants hardware that does what I instruct it to after I have purchased it, regardless of the manufacturer's wishes, I don't think I can support buying DJI's otherwise-excellent products any longer. The firmware updates and activation locks and flight restrictions imposed by the DJI Go app are too onerous. If I buy a tool, and the tool now belongs to me, the manufacturer attempting to restrict my use of…

I've never considered buying a drone however I would certainly not buy one that required an app + required user account to operate a piece of offline equipment.

Even their handheld video cameras require online activation. It’s madness.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by samplatt »

barbecue_sauce wrote: post #69
folli wrote: post #57

I feel like an old man, when I say this (and maybe I am), but I'm starting to feel increasingly annoyed by drones in public. You hear the whirring of drones on a nice day by the lake, and sometimes even on some more popular mountain peaks here in Switzerland. For me it's almost as annoying as a mosquito in your bedroom.

I live in the northeastern United States. I have literally never seen a drone (consumer or otherwise) anywhere other than a Best Buy (or similar electronics retailer) still in its packaging.

Switzerland is much smaller than the US, and absolutely jam-packed with gorgeous areas that would work with with drone photography.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by sneak »

vannevar wrote: post #85
sneak wrote: post #15

As someone who wants hardware that does what I instruct it to after I have purchased it, regardless of the manufacturer's wishes, I don't think I can support buying DJI's otherwise-excellent products any longer. The firmware updates and activation locks and flight restrictions imposed by the DJI Go app are too onerous. If I buy a tool, and the tool now belongs to me, the manufacturer attempting to restrict my use of…

I upvoted you, not because I agree, but because you raised a reasonable point that clearly generated some intelligent debate. I think the problem is that modern technology has resulted in cheaply available "tools" (to use your term) that have the capacity to cause great and irreparable harm to large numbers of other people (see the comments regarding drones and airplanes, for instance), and consequently must be proac…

Ehh, I don’t think that justifies it. Furthermore, it isn’t illegal to sell drones without these restrictions; DJI has done this voluntarily.

There have always been tools of mass destruction available in our society. You can buy unlimited quantities of gasoline and propane without the nozzle tips doing a cryptographic handshake ensuring that you’re putting it into a car and only a car. Same goes for explosives. They’re readily available, without scrutiny. It’s sufficient having laws against murder and blowing things up.

We don’t need technological restrictions. Indeed, the law does not require them for drones. This is purely DJI being proactive and fucking their customers.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by bschwindHN »

kawsper wrote: post #33

I'm on a german IP but don't speak a word of german, however the whole page is in german. My browser sends the correct headers, accept-language: en-US,en;q=0.9,da;q=0.8.

I'm in Japan and just get a 404. Just shitty web development, nothing surprising.
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