Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices • Hacker News Board

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by cobalt » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

mikepurvis wrote: post #48

vidanay wrote: post #2

Now we can all be 10 X developers!

To be honest, I was hoping this would have something to do with first party supply for X Windows on Windows, so that I could kick VcXsrv to the curb.

i use a uwp app called x410. havent used it a ton but works pretty well for me.

Also why would that ever happen...

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by ohbleek » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

If you think there isn’t a market for a dual screen device, step into a med school or any professional school. Half of my classmates carry around two devices specifically to have a second screen for referencing videos, notes, articles, etc... personally I can’t wait to get the neo. I have a 15” surface book 2 and it’s served me well but I would love a second screen with the same versatility of my sb2.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by kube-system » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:54 PM UTC

holy_city wrote: post #22

chasing wrote: post #8

The dual screens look like a marketing gimmick in search of an actual use...

I disagree, screen real estate is precious.

Which I agree with -- but the device they're showing it off on looks pretty cramped for screen real estate. It has two 9" screens. If we guess those are 16:9 displays, that's about 69 square inches of space... which is actually a few square inches smaller than a single 13" display of the same ratio. (72 square inches)

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by zozbot234 » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #81

jonknee wrote: post #14

Microsoft is using Android! Lauren Goode got a great quote from Satya on this topic: > When I asked Satya Nadella whether Microsoft ever thought about reviving a true Windows mobile OS, he told me: "The operating system is no longer the most important layer for us...What is most important for us is the app model and the experience." https://twitter.com/LaurenGoode/status/1179421631506210822 Update: my apologies, this…

> The operating system is no longer the most important layer for us - Satya That's obvious. But I would like Microsoft to release boot-loader unlock keys for those Windows Phone devices, so that android enthusiasts can build ROMs for some of those capable hardware.

Old WP devices are comparatively easy to mod - bootloader unlock is not an issue at all. The issue with running a custom OS on those is hardware/driver support, as is usual for this class of devices.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by scarface74 » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:58 PM UTC

asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

There have been USB powered portable monitors for years that would let you get a dual screen experience. With iOS 13, there is built in support for using an iPad ($329 10.2inch screen) as a second display.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by lone_haxx0r » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:58 PM UTC

Ok, now make it not shut itself down randomly for updates.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by ascii_only » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:58 PM UTC

mrep wrote: post #99

klohto wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft is not like Apple. They don't make perfect products at the beginning Oh man, try to remember how the first iPhone was. It was the most useless thing in the world. It didn’t have app store! The lesson is to iterate, iterate and iterate

Is that sarcasm, because I had the first iphone and being able to use a browser anywhere was the killer feature, and it was amazing.

Is that sarcasm, because I had cheap Symbian 40 phone with Opera mobile way before iPhone was announced. Browser that i used everywhere. And this Symbian phones were majority of the market. Also Windows mobile phones that only geeks were using at the time also had browser and also way before iPhone.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by cryptozeus » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmaioTs0NH8 @ 1:10:00 mark for tablet. I did not see the keyboard coming ! Great job microsoft

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by rifung » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC

asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

> For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate!

Can't say I have multi-screen.. but I have wanted more screen real estate.

One thing I think could happen is to make laptops that let you fold the screen out, thus letting you have a larger screen while still maintaining a small physical footprint.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by summerlight » Wed, Oct 02, 2019, 6:04 PM UTC

Some HN users are denying, but the recent trends definitely shows that most users values screen real estate a lot. The only problem here is that screen size and device form factor has been physically coupled to each other so you cannot have a useful phone with 13 inches screen. While MS' solution is not the most elegant one, but now technological advances on flexible screen makes it possible to de-couple them.

I'm pretty sure that MS is looking forward to using this technology, but also wants to get into the market as soon as possible. It'll be interesting to see what kinds of new form factors MS will bring into the market in coming years; they have been pretty innovative in this area.