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I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

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Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

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post #21

I quit social media for a long time too. And then I noticed how disconnected I was from all my old school friends and contacts. Even close family that still uses Facebook but I otherwise don’t talk to much directly (brother’s wives posting about their kids and stuff like that, maybe even more extended than that). Really, I’m starting to think that opting out of social media altogether is a bit like opting to be a her…

You aren't putting up walls around yourself when you do that. Facebook is.

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#112
post #22

I quit social media for a long time too. And then I noticed how disconnected I was from all my old school friends and contacts. Even close family that still uses Facebook but I otherwise don’t talk to much directly (brother’s wives posting about their kids and stuff like that, maybe even more extended than that). Really, I’m starting to think that opting out of social media altogether is a bit like opting to be a her…

I understand where you're coming from, but in my opinion the benefit you're describing isn't worth the privacy concerns for me. I do wish there were a service that allowed for event organizing that didn't try to track me around the web and that didn't sell any information they could find on me to third parties.

There is also the idea of "quality of interaction". My relatively nearby sphere of family that posts updates aren't really looking for my validation. They'll let me know what their children have been up to the next time I see them in meatspace. I'll get more enjoyment out of talking with them about them, too, then I ever will by posting an emoji or liking their post. My proverbial crazy uncle that posts political screes will still corner me at the next family gathering and I'll using coping strategies until I can escape. Do I really need to keep tabs on the lives of the people I would casually say 'hi' to in the hallway in middle school 40 years ago?

If the cost were trivial, then maybe this would all be worth it. But the privacy concerns drive me away. I have an account. I use it once every year or two to give my condolences when I hear someone I know had a relative pass away or something. Other than that, I do without. It makes me wonder what life would be like if there was a corporation like that that I could actually trust.

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#113
post #30

I gave up FB and Instagram posts because my political view (conservative) and got 2 banned and harassed by relatives and strangers. Life is way better without FB/Insta

Yeah, I lean right as well (fiscally). There's no way in hell I'd seriously post any political stuff online that's tied to my real name. There is absolutely no nuance in online discussions. Just wrong think, name calling, and down votes (and spamming links that "prove" things at each other).

Contrast that with the real world where (outside of some fringe goofballs) having deeply different political beliefs doesn't mean that much. You can vehemently disagree with one another... while also enjoying each other's company (and also talking about things other than politics!).

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#114

Being the person who shouts loudest "I am somebody" on social media does not make you somebody worth listening to. This narcissism is the key problem of social media. Oddly enough, social media made it's big entrance via movie stars - I could not possibly be any less surprised at this. It would befit social media to rate someone with importance not according to a check or star but according to actual real world accom…

There's a good Seneca letter, "On Quiet Conversation." It includes these lines:

"Philosophy is good advice; and no one can give advice at the top of his lungs...

Words should be scattered like seed; no matter how small the seed may be, if it has once found favourable ground, it unfolds its strength and from an insignificant thing spreads to its greatest growth. Reason grows in the same way; it is not large to the outward view, but increases as it does its work. Few words are spoken; but if the mind has truly caught them, they come into their strength and spring up. Yes, precepts and seeds have the same quality; they produce much, and yet they are slight things. Only, as I said, let a favourable mind receive and assimilate them. Then of itself the mind also will produce bounteously in its turn, giving back more than it has received."

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#115
post #4

I used to excessively post on Facebook. I started to worry that it was unhealthy- why do I need the constant validation from strangers? What is wrong with me psychologically that I crave that more than my own privacy? So I quit last year and I've felt good about that choice. Now I have 17000 HN points and I'm starting to feel like I gave up meth and replaced it with cocaine. Maybe better, but still not good. Going to…

Just turn on the procrastination monitor. I did it and with my reading habits, I can only post something like one or two comments a day.

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#116
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a user script in chrome to hide my HN karma count from myself. Super helpful for focusing on what is important when contributing (along with a lot of constructive feedback from the mods over the last 8 years).

Is this publicly available? I've been looking for something like this.

Install Stylus or another css extension and then add this style filtered to news.ycombinator.com:

  .pagetop {
      visibility:collapse;
  }
  
  .pagetop * {
      visibility:visible;
  }
  
  .score {
      visibility:hidden;
  }

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#117
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a big difference between superficial mostly-visual social status sharing and having discussions on a tightly moderated text-only forum which de-emphasizes personal identity and has no notifications. FB tends to be a net negative while HN is the opposite (at least for me) because of the content and engagement.

I don't think there is a substantial difference. I had an account (which I've since deleted) with thousands of karma points. I was becoming obsessed with the validation of getting upvotes. And I'm somebody who never cared about likes on Facebook. But validation from the smart people here? It was addictive and really tainted how I interacted with HN. I went into an emotional tailspin if I started getting downvotes.

I think caring about that kind of validation is a separate issue from the content itself, and requires self-discipline regardless. At least discussion on interesting and educational topics is better than sharing yet another batch of vacation photos.

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#118
post #21

I quit social media for a long time too. And then I noticed how disconnected I was from all my old school friends and contacts. Even close family that still uses Facebook but I otherwise don’t talk to much directly (brother’s wives posting about their kids and stuff like that, maybe even more extended than that). Really, I’m starting to think that opting out of social media altogether is a bit like opting to be a her…

The thing that makes this so much harder is that there's still an algorithm between you and your FB feed. Even if you feel you're good the check in once a week, you still don't see the "important" posts and there's still mindless noise in your feed. I don't know if there's a way to curate this, but I've found that FB is all or nothing for me (and I feel better with nothing)

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

#119
post #4

I used to excessively post on Facebook. I started to worry that it was unhealthy- why do I need the constant validation from strangers? What is wrong with me psychologically that I crave that more than my own privacy? So I quit last year and I've felt good about that choice. Now I have 17000 HN points and I'm starting to feel like I gave up meth and replaced it with cocaine. Maybe better, but still not good. Going to…

I've used a combination of tampermonkey type scripts and "ublock origin" block elements to remove all karma from here and reddit. I find it a lot nicer.

Re: I used to fear being a nobody, then I left social media

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post #106
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Many people just go through Facebook and create a private event and invite their Facebook friends when they have a birthday gathering nowadays. You will miss out on these if you opt-out completely. I did. This has been my experience. It's a valid pragmatic argument for staying, and a valid principled argument for opting out.

If someone can't be arsed to call me or send me an email inviting me to their birthday then I don't consider them a friend. I have not had this issue since quitting facebook around 2011. But then again I have clearly notified those people that are actually my friends that if they want to include me they need to call or email or something like that. Nobody has issues with that and fully understand my desire to stay aw…

> If someone can't be arsed to call me or send me an email inviting me to their birthday then I don't consider them a friend.

And they think the same of you. If their preferred method of communication is Facebook message, are you really a friend if you don’t care?

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