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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by icelancer » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:07 PM UTC

xedeon wrote: post #52

icelancer wrote: post #31

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Same. The Tesla Model 3 is great. I'd get one if I didn't have crushing doubt about their ability to service their cars. Or stay in business long-term.

> I'd get one if I didn't have crushing doubt about their ability to service their cars. Or stay in business long-term. Are you serious? That false narrative fueled by FUD has been the talking point by short-sellers since 2008 (Only Tesla and Ford survived the 2008 market crash btw). It's now 2019 and you would think people would know any better.

The first point is VERY valid. There are tons of stories of people waiting weeks for a simple door repair.

The second one is kinda whatever. I don't actually fear they will go out of business. But neither do I have infinite confidence in their business model.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by ubermonkey » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

It's really baffling. The CarPlay experience in our Volkswagen is so good I cannot imagine ever going back to an automaker's in-house system. Even the ones in the luxury cars I've had -- BMW, Mercedes -- have been absolute crap compared to CarPlay.

I don't even care that it requires USB.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by GrayTextIsTruth » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

pokstad wrote: post #35

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Other car manufactures have tried avoiding those two because they want to maintain control over their ecosystem. Read up on how Toyota failed at this with their special infotainment Linux OS.

huh. i didn't know this was a thing: https://www.automotivelinux.org/

part of the linux foundation

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by agloeregrets » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Straightforward they have no interest in losing control of the software running. I think the idea is that the product will continue to work even after smartphones. Also they were a bit miffed with Apple a while back.

But yeah no nothing to do with data rights on Apple’s end, google does want more data though.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Judgmentality » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

> In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

I wonder what kind of road rage this might induce.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xedeon » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

qroshan wrote: post #95

xedeon wrote: post #77

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Netflix Revenue — $17 billion Gross Profit — $5.8 billion EBITDA — $2 billion Market Cap — $111 billion Debt — $14 billion Enterprise Value — $125 billion Tesla Revenue — $25B Gross Profit — $4B EBITDA — $2.33B Market Cap — $39B Debt — $14B Enterprise Value — $54B ------------------- Uber Revenue — $12 billion Gross Profit — $4 billion EBITDA — negative $7.6 billion Market Cap — $53 billion Debt — $6.2 billion Enterp…

Holy shit! The lies that you have put Tesla's Q2 Gross Profit was 900 million with a Gross profit of -170 Million. Where did you get the 25B Gross Profit from?

> Holy shit! The lies that you have put

Do you actually know how read financials? I hope you don't actually dabble in active trading...

If you do, you should stop now and just put your hard-earned money into an index fund and call it a day.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by atonse » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #44

spectrum1234 wrote: post #29

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Right unless you routinely go on 500+ mile trips with a longer range Tesla or 400+ mile trips with the shorter range models there is no need for a gas car. I road trip a decent amount but I've released 4-5 hour drives aren't really an issue. And of course those trips are possible you'd just need to stop 1-3 times for 10-15 mins (you charge faster at lower batter % vs fill up more range once). Now if you want to go 2x…

I thought that, too, but I have taken a couple of longer (800 mile or so) trips in the Tesla and was pleasantly surprised. I thought the 'charge for 30 minutes' at a supercharger was going to seem like a lot of waiting, but by the time we unloaded the kids out of the car, went to the bathroom, etc, the car was already charged. Being forced to stop every couple of hundred miles was really not that bad. Broke up the tr…

I second this. I had the same concerns but we stop anyway with young kids. And charging has never felt too long. Since there are so many superchargers in the northeast US (DC-Boston) you can stop for 15 mins at a time even and that’s fine too.

The self driving makes road trips utterly relaxing.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by lazyjones » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

sxates wrote: post #5

Really excited to finally get Spotify integration, that's huge. Also hoping they install WiFi at superchargers so you can watch youtube/Netflix while charging there. Not sure where else I'd use that feature.

Imagine how much bandwidth they'd save if Superchargers with WiFi offered the latest software version cached locally at full WiFi speed to the cars...

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by ratsbane » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

gameswithgo wrote: post #21

AcerbicZero wrote: post #15

I kinda wish Tesla made a few regular petrol cars for the enthusiast type such as myself, as this sounds like a ton of neat technology to play around with. I'm just not in the market for an electric car, unfortunately. Edit: By enthusiast, I mean track/motorsport/etc enthusiast. I borrowed a Model S from a friend of mine for a few days and while I enjoyed it, it wasn't the most exciting drive, and I can't imagine it…

I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb . If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

I've driven my Model 3 on a 2400-mile road trip from Fremont to Memphis, as well as many 200-800 mile road trips and it has really exceeded my initial expectations. I would not want to take a long trip in a conventional car again.

The combination of autopilot, infotainment, and smoother ride makes it less tiring. The charging stops tend to happen when I would want to take a break and eat anyway. Also, hotels with Tesla chargers are great.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by youeseh » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:11 PM UTC

sxates wrote: post #5

Really excited to finally get Spotify integration, that's huge. Also hoping they install WiFi at superchargers so you can watch youtube/Netflix while charging there. Not sure where else I'd use that feature.

Is there coffee at Superchargers?