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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by codesushi42 »

RickJWagner wrote: post #20

There's enough anecdotal material available now that I don't consider myself a scoffer. I'm curious about UFOs and don't really know what to think about them. Also, several politicians have made curious statements about 'releasing information to the public'. If there was just nothing there, I don't think they'd be talking about it. Looking forward to the day (I think) when we all know what's out there.

Looking forward to the day (I think) when we all know what's out there.

Intelligent life that is too far away to ever encounter us.

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Post by nomel »

Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #98
rblion wrote: post #2

I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

Yeah, and I don't think they were aliens. I just don't know what they were. We were driving through very rural Illinois at about 10 pm. I was just staring out of the window up at the sky. Suddenly, I noticed a rather bright orb (not perfectly circular or anything, I just don't know how else to describe it) hovering in the air. I would guess maybe a quarter mile laterally, and only a couple hundred of feet up. I didn'…

It would be interesting to set up a crowd sourced, and maybe crowd hosted, reporting system for sightings like this. It could help track larger movements, (puts on tinfoil) with their accuracy verified by how quickly the service is taken down/flooded/infiltrated.

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Post by devtul »

one2know wrote: post #31

The videos are of real aircraft recorded through a FLIR pod. When zoomed out far enough the aircraft simply look like fuzzy ovals as demonstrated in this video https://youtu.be/jWjpnCKcj8M?t=136 For some reason people in the military and government are trolling the public, perhaps as part of a campaign to discredit news agencies.

I thought we were over the fact that news agencies don't need any help to discredit themselves.

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Post by bendbro »

semerda wrote: post #91

Anyone notice the pilot switched between BLK and WHT mode and on both occasions the designator was coming back as COLD! Shouldn't a designator with an exhaust or any machinery in motion return HOT? Or did I get this wrong?

Perhaps it was the brightness or contrast of the sensor autoadjusting?

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Post by nickpsecurity »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #43
kart23 wrote: post #26

I think theres two possibilities that are believable for me. I dont think its 'aliens' or other extraterrestrials. Either it is completely fake, made up by the navy to hide something else that they wanted to cover up, and could also serve as a confusion tactic for other countries aerospace programs, some sort of fake internal thing to tease out a mole or another situation like that. The other possibility is that it r…

What about a third option, it's a visual artifact on the FLIR recording?

I was thinking it could be an anomoly of its signal processing (eg fusion) system. Look at the failures in AI systems posted here. There could be some inputs, bad training, or logic errors causing this.

Also, that fits with the jammer hypothesis, too. People are experimenting with feeding malicious input to NN's. They've messed them up with tiniest changes to image. One could probably do something like that with these techs, too.

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Post by spydum »

dmix wrote: post #59

I'm still not buying how they could be on a big deployment off the east coast of the US and didn't have any other sensors pick it up besides two pilots next to each other with FLIR camera autotracking it momentarily. Not to mention the constant satellite and aerial radar coverage and other networked stuff they have for these big deployments. This isn't in the middle of the Indian ocean like the missing Malaysian plan…

West coast right? Weren’t there other similar stories from ATC and commercial pilots? https://www.foxnews.com/science/ufo-evidence-recordings-reve...

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Post by erik_landerholm »

lamontcg wrote: post #35
simonblack wrote: post #4

I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

It moved way beyond super sonic speed and had the movement pattern of a “ping-pong ball bouncing off invisible walls”, while hovering. Capt fravor saw this with his eyeballs, unfortunately we can’t record that, yet.

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Post by erik_landerholm »

api wrote: post #44
lamontcg wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

That's interesting, but wasn't there also at least one visual sighting accompanying this FLIR stuff?

Minimum 4 pilots saw it, but only fravor and his WSO have been willing to speak about it.

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Post by ceejayoz »

erik_landerholm wrote: post #82
simonblack wrote: post #4

I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

So Captain Fravor is s liar? He claims to of seen the tic-tac and chased it. So if it’s a secret jet, he’s a liar, or we developed anti-gravity tech in secrecy somehow.

Members of the military are required at times to lie to preserve secrets. Anyone in-the-know asked about the F-117, for example, would've been required by law to deny its existence.

There's another possibility, too; he's human, and humans frequently make mistakes. Eyewitness reports are incredibly unreliable.

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