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Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

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Re: Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

#111

The violent pro China protestors should be kicked out of Australia. If you violently push your pro authoritarian views in your democratic host country, they have every right to kick you out.

Honestly, even if the university is too scared to take an actual stance, assaulting a fellow student should be grounds for expulsion by itself.

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#112
post #99

The violent pro China protestors should be kicked out of Australia. If you violently push your pro authoritarian views in your democratic host country, they have every right to kick you out.

Agree. But violent pro HK protestors should also be punished under law

Which violent protesters are you referring to?

Which law?

Why should they be punished?

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#113

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> many now require daily pledge of allegiance here in Washington state Haven’t court decisions rendered pupils’ participation in the pledge of allegiance optional in all 50 states?

That they're technically optional doesn't prevent peers for bullying over it. Source: I was an Australian citizen while in US schools from 2nd through 12th grade. It can be highly uncomfortable to stand silently (and politely) during the Pledge.

When I was in school, almost no one actually said the pledge. By the time I was in high school almost every just sat and continued doing what they were doing. This was in a conservative suburban school in the south.

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It's outrage-porn peddled as world news by the BCC, plain and simple. The tell-tale sign is that they didn’t bother to get both sides of the story. There are videos of the incident readily available on Youtube [1] which show what exactly happened. There’s one group of HK/Australian pro-Hong Kong protestors on one side. There’s another group of Mainland students exercising their right to free speech by playing and sin…

>The tell-tale sign is that they didn’t bother to get both sides of the story. Why? Not every story has two sides. Here one group used violence on another that didn't. Unless you have evidence that the pro-HK protesters actually used violence first, that's the only side to the story. The mainland faction being riled up doesn't excuse violence. Just because it's not a massive riot where the streets run red with blood…

> On the contrary, it objectively is the case, as the first video you yourself linked to shows: it opens with a pro-mainland student in black rushing into the pro-HK crowd and assaulting someone with a crowd screaming and advancing behind him.

Quick questions:

1. How do you know that guy is pro-mainland? I certainly don't have enough information to make a concrete determination such as that, i'd be curious to know how you did. It looks like he came from the pro-HK side of the mob as they are the ones holding the signs and the guy in the black sweater and glasses from that side is screaming "free hong kong", but I could be wrong.

2. Who hit who first? It looks like a mutual engagement to me.

Your confirmation bias is really shining through here.

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#115
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No, thats a huge exaggeration, Trump is not sending to kill or throwing to jail anyone who disagrees with him, forcing schools to brainwash its students, etc etc, America may have many problems but its not China.

Nor is China doing that in Australia. As described in the article, they've outsourced the harassment to patriotic, nationalist civilians. A Trump supporter was at the Cincinnati rally the other day making slit-throat gestures at the press pen. Same sort of crowdsourced intimidation tactics.

What qualifies as "same sort of crowdsourced intimidation tactics"? Yesterday, a Trump supporter was actually beaten bloody by a crowd in NYC based on the hat he wore. Are media and political figures who demonize Trump and his voters also responsible for that "crowdsourced intimidation"?

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/maga-hat-beating

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#116
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“Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.” This is off-topic.

If you're gonna be a rules stickler, you should probably obey them yourself:

> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it.

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#117

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Nor is China doing that in Australia. As described in the article, they've outsourced the harassment to patriotic, nationalist civilians. A Trump supporter was at the Cincinnati rally the other day making slit-throat gestures at the press pen. Same sort of crowdsourced intimidation tactics.

What qualifies as "same sort of crowdsourced intimidation tactics"? Yesterday, a Trump supporter was actually beaten bloody by a crowd in NYC based on the hat he wore. Are media and political figures who demonize Trump and his voters also responsible for that "crowdsourced intimidation"? http://www.fox5ny.com/news/maga-hat-beating

> What qualifies as "same sort of crowdsourced intimidation tactics"?

Encouraging it.

You let me know when a prominent Democratic candidate does something like offering to pay legal fees if you beat up the other side, like Trump did: https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protes...

> “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you?” Trump said, drawing cheers and laughter. “Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise. They won’t be so much, because the courts agree with us too — what’s going on in this country.”

In the case of the media intimidation, calling them "the enemy of the people": https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11142215334617907...

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post #105

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Texas even requires parental consent on opt out, so the kid had to have a good support network.

Random q: where were you based in China?

Beijing. I was working for MS China.

Re: Hong Kong protests: 'I'm in Australia but I feel censored by Chinese students'

#120

This infuriates me. Intimidation and hostile attitude towards people protesting in a different country is an act of barbarianism and should be condemned internationally. In fact, the way to combat this is to further enrage, fearlessly protest the PRC patriotic machine and "poke" the hornet's nest so to speak. I've taken the pledge to never visit China and avoid Chinese goods because of shit like this. The PRC has a s…

I am avoiding Chinese goods as much as I can. Anybody buying Chinese goods is supporting a totalitarian regime.

If it says "Mads in China", I am not buying it. Simple.. And I don't care, if I have to pay more or if everything is made in China these days. I am NOT buying it.

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