Winnti: Hackers attacking the heart of German industry

Post by C1sc0cat » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:53 PM UTC

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Do you have any names?

Twitch has some engineering in Berlin, Amazon pays quite well, Siemens pays quite well, as do the various car companies (basically any company with a strong IG Metall presence pays 70k+ for developers), Snowflake has some engineering in Berlin too (I work for them, you can figure out my email address fairly easily and drop me a mail if you like). Startups in Berlin generally pay 60-100k depending on seniority. Median…

Post by srrr » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

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Many (senior) developers I know in Berlin get 80000€/year gross income. That is in the top 6% of incomes in Germany. (Top 6% income bracket in the USA would be 150000$/year.) I don't even get 80k€/year and have a very luxurious and high quality life in Berlin. Resource: https://wid.world/simulator/

What do say Lawyers, doctors and Traditional engineers Get ?

Post by klyonrad » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:19 PM UTC

adventured wrote: post #110

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Many (senior) developers I know in Berlin get 80000€/year gross income. That is in the top 6% of incomes in Germany. (Top 6% income bracket in the USA would be 150000$/year.) I don't even get 80k€/year and have a very luxurious and high quality life in Berlin. Resource: https://wid.world/simulator/

The median software developer - out of nearly 1.3 million developers - in the US makes ~$107,000 per year for 2019. A senior developer should be up near $150,000 even outside the primary major tech cities. The top 10% tier of developers starts over $160,000.

Post by wirrbel » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

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I own a basically German-engineered car (the car badge itself is Spanish), and one of its main advantages is that it is old enough (well, by today's standards, the car is from 2007) that is not sophisticated enough in order to include that much electronics and software. As such I'm perfectly confident to hop right in and drive 400-500 miles, heck, I've driven almost 3000 miles a couple of summers ago all the way to S…

You wouldn't feel confident driving 400 miles in a 2019 German car because of software? What do you envision going wrong?

Post by ulfw » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

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You wouldn't feel confident driving 400 miles in a 2019 German car because of software? What do you envision going wrong?

> you wouldn't feel confident driving 400 miles in a 2019 German car because of software? Because of software and electronics combined, yes. > What do you envision going wrong? One of my closest friends purchased a VW Tiguan last year and not two weeks into his ownership the car left him stranded at the side of the read because of a coolant hose or something similar. If VW cannot make a simple hose not break after on…