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Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

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Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

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post #91

"I have to pick an item every eight seconds, or 332 per hour, for a 10-hour day" No, no you dont

It's not a paradox as stated, since "or" has ambiguous meaning, but it does look suspicious, since 3600sec/8sec is 450, and 3600sec/332 is about 10.8sec.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#113

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> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

> . It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for Why does it bother you when people empathize with the poor and castigate billion dollar corporations that don't even allow employees enough time to urinate without it harming the employees metrics making them slip towards the back of the rank and closer to being fired? That bothers you ...think about that.

You entirely missed their point and instead put words in their mouth.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#114
post #85

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Sure. However, I think the poster is commenting on the insensitivity of the post by OP. No one has denied that this is not happening because it is. We can however, comment on them in a way that is empathetic to the workers who are protesting. Never know, might come for any one of us one day.

The reality is appeal to empathy is imo ineffective.

It does seem to be ineffective on Hacker News, doesn't it? I wonder what that says about the users here.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#115
post #15

I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…

> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

> the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market.

Why?

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#116
post #15

I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…

> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

The fact that Amazon can easily hire people at $15/hr at its current abysmal working conditions does not mean that they morally should. The market conditions let Amazon get away with it, and collective action changes market conditions.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

Tangentially one thing that I've pondered is the the Amazon Fulfillment Centers are typically on the periphery exurban areas such that they will have the benefits of the minimum wage legislation of the urban area but that wage will go a lot farther and they will have a lot shorter commute then if they were located in the urban area itself as a normal retail job would. That seems smart. For instance, $15 an hour goes…

Poor people generally don't live in suburban or exurban areas. And if they can't afford decent transportation then they will either face very long commutes or move and be stranded with whatever jobs are in the periphery exurban area.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#118
post #15

I agree with the worker in the video, they should be treated as human beings. One of the issues is doing a simple, monotonous task every 8 seconds, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, without creating anything of value, is going to be dehumanizing and unfulfilling regardless. Robots carrying out this work would probably be for the best for everyone involved, although Amazon should do right by the workers carrying them ove…

If they didn't "create anything of value" why are they there doing it? Why does Amazon have them doing what they do in the first place? The point is they do in fact play an important role in the generation of the value by Amazon and they are asking for their fair share.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The compensation should reflect the mental and physical stress they put people through. As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The fact that Amazon can easily hire as many workers as it wants at $15/hr says that they are paying their employees plenty already. It bothers me that people are constantly demonizing Amazon for t…

> As with all companies paying workers to do a job, the compensation should reflect the confluence of supply and demand in the market. The odiousness of the use of the word "should" has been pointed out elsewhere, and I reiterate it, but there is another point to be made about this analysis: It neglects that Amazon is a monopsony or near-monopsony. As Amazon replaces other supply chains, the demand for supply-chain l…

Amazon is still far from being a monopsony. If you've got evidence suggesting otherwise, please share. Otherwise don't spread falsehoods.

Re: Amazon workers launch protests on Prime Day

#120
post #88

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Yes, that is why you are being criticized: for not caring about other people.

Yes, can you see that is ineffective ? you want to make me care, you have to force me to care.

You're literally just saying you're a terrible person.

Congratulations, you're literally the problem.

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