As a buyer I had a few good experiences finding contractors on Upwork. If “no one should ever use it,” does anyone have a good suggestion for a better place to find good freelance coders for small projects?
GitHub worked well for me when I was hiring freelancers in the past and nowadays when I occasionally freelance.
Data scientists shouldn't use Upwork
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think it is not possible for race be related to job performance you must not have watched much NBA basketball.
The best athletes are extremely intelligent and driven people. The over-representation of black people in athletics is most definitely related to their under-representation in other fields.
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Or it might just be because basketball is the preferred sport of a lot of black people in the US, so they are more likely to play it and become good at it. If you look at hockey, it is mostly white. That doesn't mean being white gives you an advantage in playing hockey. It just means way more white people enjoy hockey compared to black people.
> If you look at hockey, it is mostly white. That doesn't mean being white gives you an advantage in playing hockey. It just means way more white people enjoy hockey compared to black people. I suspect it's more that playing hockey implies a certain socioeconomic stratum (hockey is an expensive sport).
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#114* They record your screen * Your screen contains data * GDPR.
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#115Upwork is ruining it for gig economy / freelancing / outsourcing. They create a race to the bottom and prioritize the client over fairness. Fiverr isn't much better. It's hard for any "we focus on everything" platform to get the specific needs of each vertical (customer + talent side) right. It's why TaskRabbit (focus on everything) never reached the scale of Uber/Lyft (press a button, get a ride). I'm not deep in th…
I hope you will consider branching out beyond those particular technologies. For example, I'm a Node dev who has done Angular and React before but would probably rather use Vue on the front end (if it's appropriate) these days. Also have a fair bit of Linux experience which might be an important skill (as well as C++ and many other technologies from 20+ years). And I am thinking I might focus more on AI by learning to use some of the high level APIs out there. I assume there is demand for that type of thing.
I guess one of the main difficult things about branching out beyond React etc. is, how can you necessarily do a weekly demo for something that really isn't visual or interactive or may not have a short term deliverable? I think the simplest answer is just some type of screen share or short video that shows the raw progress, for example just a run-through of data cleanup scripts highlighting some of the data issues being resolved.
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I spent the whole time reading the article thinking "so you got scammed by people looking to find a way to hide prejudice behind ML? What a surprise..." Maybe the lesson here is that people doing unethical things will take the opportunity to do more unethical things, like not pay you, and it may well be in your self interest to apply your ethics when choosing a job? Upwork doesn't look great here, but seems like it's…
No, that's not the lesson. Upwork the platform scammed him, not the 'unethical' clients. The clients were looking to settle the bill.
And they get away with by scapegoating Upwork.
Ticketmaster is an abuse catcher for venue price gouging. Why not hide behind Upwork policy to achieve a similar “no skin in the game” buffer.
We just keep adding administration layers to everything, for jobs of course, while we see it always turn into an obfuscation tactic for swindlers.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I spent the whole time reading the article thinking "so you got scammed by people looking to find a way to hide prejudice behind ML? What a surprise..." Maybe the lesson here is that people doing unethical things will take the opportunity to do more unethical things, like not pay you, and it may well be in your self interest to apply your ethics when choosing a job? Upwork doesn't look great here, but seems like it's…
No, that's not the lesson. Upwork the platform scammed him, not the 'unethical' clients. The clients were looking to settle the bill.
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#119I'm surprised that the complaint is about getting paid, rather than pointing out that Upwork facilitated an illegal and immoral system to be built. You don't get to use "demographic information" like "race" or "age" or probably many of the columns the post mentions to make hiring decisions. For the sake of the jobs industry, the author should change their post to say this.
Any company with dubious ethics could easily manipulate the data (collection) to match their intentions.