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Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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Post by NeedMoreTea » Tue, Jul 02, 2019, 1:25 PM UTC

hker wrote: post #92

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #2

You might almost think it was intended to provoke a reaction. So much so it smells like a false flag op. They were left pretty much alone for about 12 hours, while they broke windows and shutters, since the first reports of broken windows came last night. To justify the "entirely necessary but unavoidable" reaction coming soon?

This is not a false flag op. Disclosure: I closely followed the forum where many of the high level discussions take place: lihkg.com (in Cantonese). The protestors broke into the legislative council, partly in response to the no-response from the government after the large protests on 9 June, 12 June, and 16 June; and partly because of some recent desperate suicides towards no-response from the government (just two c…

Interesting, thanks for the extra info.

Bloody disappointing if so, as it seems likely to get just the sort of heavy handed response that they're demonstrating over.

Re: Hong Kong protesters occupy legislative chamber

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Post by calyth2018 » Tue, Jul 02, 2019, 6:29 PM UTC

inlined wrote: post #40

Any time protesters start throwing “unidentified liquids” my mind makes some gross assumptions. Maybe I’ve spent too long in SF.

Piss is probably preferable to acid.

Throwing acid is not exactly unheard of in HK - often cases against women.

Thankfully there's no indication of that.

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Post by Robotbeat » Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 1:42 AM UTC

duguxu wrote: post #103

rolltiide wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think there is any scenario where it can be a bargaining chip that results in its independence? 1997 China is very different than 2019 China with regard to the successes in Shanghai's free trade zone and Guangzhou. The Communist Party is very very far from the teachings of Karl Marx and there is no outcome of a communist utopia that dissolves the central planners, after the means of production are completely e…

Uniting China has been the core political ideology for all major China dynasties across history, the same for CPC too. Let alone overthrowing the colonialism and getting independence is widely regarded as one of the greatest achievement and gives the legality of its governance.The resource deployed is chicken feed compared to the political crisis losing SARs.

Gaining more power is probably the only common thread among powerful men of all ideologies. "Uniting China" is just another way of saying "extend my control over more people." We shouldn't be surprised that expansionary rhetoric was common among all the major dynasties in what we today call China. This is not, however, a license to do so.