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Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by CreatedForThis »

geokon wrote: post #50

The problem is that JS Fonts and other CDNed stuff won't load and websites will hang or work weird - particularly Stackoverflow. Bc it's all over https you can't MITM it and inject your own with OpenWRT/piholes. Decentraleyes (a Firefox browser extension) fixes some of this, but not all. If anyone has any additional suggestions, please let me know (it makes life bearable in China without a VPN)

I’ve added your suggestion to our list, and I will try to see if I can make, a separate list mainly for those dedicated web services. For myself, I always block all JS fonts, and CDN domains, and I think, only really use Decentraleyes for that (Or LocalCDN as an alternative), and most of the time, It's usable, but not on the few cases when no content at all is being pulled from those domains.

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by CreatedForThis »

jedberg wrote: post #18

Has anyone actually used this? Does the web become completely unusable? I suspect blocking their fonts and their CDN for jquery would be enough to make most of the web unusable.

Well, myself actually. What i habitually do in those case, when this is really not usable, I just usually temporary whitelist them only for this specific domain i’m trying to access. This break obviously the purpose of the filter list partially tho.

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by CreatedForThis »

bronlund wrote: post #58

Why is Apple at this list? What have they done?

¨by their size, they are particularly influential on the American and European Internet both economically and politically and socially and are regularly the subject of criticism or prosecution on tax matters, abuses of dominant positions and the non-respect of Internet users' privacy.¨ To be short, that what it is. But we can pin point each cases one by one. This filter list only concentrate on Google tho for the moment.

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by hombre_fatal »

orpep90nxkfo wrote: post #88
qrbLPHiKpiux wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It thinks I’m addicted to opiates because of the suboxone ads it presents, only because sometimes I listen to 90’s techno, rave music.

Not Google, but Twitter thinks I’m a 45 old married male with 3 kids I’m 39, divorced, and have 2 kids It’s almost as if the big data sales pitch is an epic joke like nuclear powered everything being pitched in the 50s

What? That is an incredibly accurate profile derived from random tweets / follows, and certainly accurate enough to serve you ads.

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by 7ewis »

ravenstine wrote: post #2

This is a nice idea, but the one thing I haven't been able to divorce myself from is YouTube. I really hate how Google has allowed such a wealth of constant information that completely dwarfs alternative video hosting sites. As censorious as Google can be(now "up next" is always some video from CNN or Fox), blocking YouTube from my network would mean cutting myself off from a large portion of the world.

Up next for me is great, always suggests videos of people I usually watch but haven't yet seen - or similar videos it thinks it might like.

Very rarely have any news outlet.

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by trickstra »

ravenstine wrote: post #2

This is a nice idea, but the one thing I haven't been able to divorce myself from is YouTube. I really hate how Google has allowed such a wealth of constant information that completely dwarfs alternative video hosting sites. As censorious as Google can be(now "up next" is always some video from CNN or Fox), blocking YouTube from my network would mean cutting myself off from a large portion of the world.

Try invidio.us - it hooks directly to the video feed of youtube, which means no ads, no tracking, reddit comments, your own subscriptions with rss which don't require "hitting the bell" and I just tested it works even when youtube hostname is redirected to localhost in /etc/hosts

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by thejohnstone »

Nextgrid wrote: post #51
distances wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I clear my YouTube search and watch history about once a week. Partly because of privacy, but also because a single binge of, say, metal casting videos does not mean I want them recommend ever again in the future.

They use browser fingerprinting and/or IP addresses as well. Even on a brand new browser session, doing something even slightly related to the previous session brings back its entire recommendation history.

Yes you are right they are using browser fingerprinting, but with the right tool they can easily change it. They can use Kameleo software or Multilogin etc. https://kameleo.io/

Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by [deleted] »

maccard wrote: post #69
geokon wrote: post #50

The problem is that JS Fonts and other CDNed stuff won't load and websites will hang or work weird - particularly Stackoverflow. Bc it's all over https you can't MITM it and inject your own with OpenWRT/piholes. Decentraleyes (a Firefox browser extension) fixes some of this, but not all. If anyone has any additional suggestions, please let me know (it makes life bearable in China without a VPN)

Are there any extensions that modify external resources and point them towards a "trusted" cdn? e.g. requesting " rel="nofollow">https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.4.1/jquery.mi... Would automatically remap to https://cdnjs.cloudflare.com/ajax/libs/jquery/3.4.1/jquery.m...

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Re: PiHole-Google: Completely Block Google and Its Services

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Post by idlewords »

CreatedForThis wrote: post #108
idlewords wrote: post #107

I like that this site punts on reCAPTCHA. The web is not usable without Google services, which fact is useful in talking about the impossibility of consent as a model for regulating Google.

Alternative exists. It might not be usable entirely without them, but it can on a certain point. We’ve separated the list into multiple categories, so that way, this could be easier to block some majors parts of their services only. And well, We´ve indicated the domain to whitelist in case you have issues with reCaptcha´s.

My issues with recaptcha don't matter. I can't use a large part of the web without enabling recaptcha.
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