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Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by acoard »

whalabi wrote: post #110
LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

I dual boot Windows and Fedora on a laptop with a NVIDIA dGPU and an Intel iGPU, don't use the NVIDIA one in Linux but when I boot to Windows I can game. As far as I know, Ubuntu has even better NVIDIA support than Fedora so you should be good You may need to install proprietary drivers though Also I get really, really good battery life in Linux, I think it's accomplished with sudo powertop --auto or similar

What laptop is this? A Lenovo?

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by Stratoscope »

paulcarroty wrote: post #46
Stratoscope wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second link is about someone who flashed their own copy of Windows 3.1 into the boot ROM of their own ThinkPad X200. Lenovo didn't put Windows 3.1 there, that user did. Your first link is about Lenovo's IdeaPad line. IdeaPad and ThinkPad could well be thought of as products from two different companies. Lenovo was already making laptops when they bought the ThinkPad line from IBM. Their own laptops evolved into…

> They're both part of Lenovo, but are largely separate teams with different business goals and philosophies. Sounds like marketing fairy tale - one part of company is great, second is bad, but we should love both.

> we should love both.

I didn't say that, or anything like it.

On the contrary, I was explaining the significant differences between Lenovo's consumer laptop group and the ThinkPad group.

They may be under the same corporate umbrella, but they are very different from each other.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by galkk »

If it will work flawlessly with - external dual monitor setup (one/both 4k) via docking station - battery usage - fix the throttling and power management issues

it will be great, otherwise it will be the same miserable experience out of the box that you're getting now.

(I own X1 Extreme 2018, like it, but stick to windows).

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by diffeomorphism »

LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

I own an X1 Yoga with the WQHD screen.

- grub has no problems

- Bios updates work through LVFS

- this has no dual gpu.

- power usage and fan usage is about the same as windows, running a bit cooler.

- Suspend has a linux and windows option in the UEFI options, works fine.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by meruru »

sametmax wrote: post #60
meruru wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nerd is pretty much all it takes.

Certainly not. Creation, customization, maintenance and deployement at the scale of one country is a huge task.

That's not true. A single person can do it at world scale provided they are not trying to do something overly esoteric (though you can actually get pretty far with a Gentoo base). There are even plenty of from-scratch distros that started as a one-man show. Take the recent Void Linux for instance.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by specto »

stemuk wrote: post #72
LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm. The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big). Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am s…

19.04 supports factorial but it's experimental.

I would've been much happier with the intel only version, the nvidia card is not worth it at all but at the time they didn't have 32gb of memory. Now the latest does, but too late.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by enriquto »

nhumrich wrote: post #105
enriquto wrote: post #39

The article does not seem to be true. I want to buy one right now, but the only OS that are offered for each P model are different versions of windows.

The article is true, you just interpreted it incorrectly. > Will be available this month It doesn't say "right now"

Just to nitpick, the whole sentence is "Applicable models can be configured with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and will be available this month." The first part of the sentence is written in the present tense and it is not true. The second part, it may be true or not, we'll see...

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by RandomBacon »

lucb1e wrote: post #16

Yay, more options for not paying Microsoft taxes anymore. Microsoft's policy is that the vendor must have a policy on refunding licenses, but whenever I ask for a refund with a new laptop, the procedure is forwarding me to five different people because nobody knows and the last one goes "are you kidding me" and "no". The policy could be "go away", but not having a policy is the only thing that's not allowed. Unsurpri…

Sounds like a class action to me.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by yellowapple »

stemuk wrote: post #72
LeonM wrote: post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Most of these pain points go away if you purchase the iGPU only version. I own a Thinkpad T470 and Ubuntu works like a charm. The only issue I still have is that the Gnome interface (Ubuntu 17.04+) does not support factorial scaling, meaning that I am stuck between 100% (which is way to small on a 14 inch screen) and 200% (which is way too big). Ubuntu 16.10 still supports factorial scaling though, which means I am s…

Can confirm that the T470 has been rock solid under Linux (I got one from work; running Slackware 14.2 with a -current kernel). Even OpenBSD ran reasonably well (had to switch off it because my work required me to use things like Google Hangouts that required Linux, but I might switch back pretty soon and try using an X-forwarded Linux VM).

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Post by yellowapple »

TkTech wrote: post #8
meruru wrote: post #3

Crossing fingers for China to adopt Linux rather than make their own thing in response to the US export restrictions.

China has used its own FreeBSD (kylin) and then ubuntu-based (neokylin) since 2001. Nearly half of all laptops are sold with it. Likewise, North Korea has Red Star since 2008 which is mandatory or risk forced labor. While kylin isn't too far off from a traditional distro, officers will force you to install rootkits on both desktop/laptops and phones (JingWang). If you're caught later with it missing you will most lik…

> Likewise, North Korea has Red Star since 2008 which is mandatory or risk forced labor.

I wonder how true that really is, given the proliferation of ancient (i.e. pre-XP) versions of Windows in heavy use over there.

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