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Google Calendar Is Down

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Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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This is especially chaotic for business GSuite users. Wonder if there's an offline/local cache service available for cloud-hosted systems, that would be a good middle-ground between local control and cloud-backed scale.

I work somewhere almost entirely integrated with GSuite for everything (Calendar, Gmail, Meet, Chat, Drive, Pixelbooks, etc) and it's a fun time right now.

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I work at google. I am pretty sure google calendar data is not used for ads targeting. The same is true for gmail.

I used to work at Google. Its a big company, composed of almost 10^5 employees today. In my experience, they can be trusted to adhere to the letter of their agreements; no more and no less. That's not as bad as it might sound. Plenty of companies consider their contracts to be far more mutable than Google did while I was there. But it does mean that you can't take any individual employee's word about what they are do…

So unless you are acting in an official capacity to speak for the gmail and calendar teams, you should hush.

https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

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#113

I moved off to Radicale years ago: https://radicale.org/ I use it with Thunderbird, and DavDroid (now DavX) to handle all my events and contacts (SMS contacts even show up correctly in Hangouts on Android phones) I realize GCal is rarely ever down, but they do harvest all your data to sell you shit. Here's a basic Dockerfile for Radicale if you want to try it out: https://github.com/sumdog/bee2/tree/master/dockerfile…

I'll add that Microsoft Outlook calendar works really well. or $69/year, Microsoft will sell you an Office 365 account, Outlook email and calendar, all their apps on-line, two desktop-installable licenses for their Office Suite, and 1 TB of OneDrive storage. It's a great deal.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work at Google. Its a big company, composed of almost 10^5 employees today. In my experience, they can be trusted to adhere to the letter of their agreements; no more and no less. That's not as bad as it might sound. Plenty of companies consider their contracts to be far more mutable than Google did while I was there. But it does mean that you can't take any individual employee's word about what they are do…

So unless you are acting in an official capacity to speak for the gmail and calendar teams, you should hush. https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

Thank you for the citation. Nevertheless, I hope that you can clearly see the difference between referring folks to an official company communication, and starting off with "I work at google..." IIRC, there's mandatory annual training about just this sort of thing.

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#116

This is the 2nd time a Google product has been down in the last month. What is going on there? Previous one was only 15 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20077421

> What is going on there? Nothing but anecdote, but a lot of my friends at Facebook and Google are eyeing the exits. They’ve made good money and can afford to go somewhere better aligned with their values. They’re also each remarkably talented. These outages may be a reflection of that exodus. (Counterfactual: we started our careers at the same time and are nearing a natural switching point simultaneously.)

How do you think it relates to the failures exactly? Employee quality is down? The servers had someone manually monitoring them and they quit so now the servers are quietly on fire? What's the theory?

Hint: companies at Google's scale do not have a single point of failure where employees slowly trickling in or out can impact their infrastructure in this way. You would see many more failures in this case. The tenure for the average employee is ~2 years.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work at google. I am pretty sure google calendar data is not used for ads targeting. The same is true for gmail.

Then what do they gain from it?

Get people to stay logged in to Google. Then when you do your regular google.com searches, Google knows exactly who you are rather than trying to figure it out for an "anonymous" searcher. I'd guess that alone is worth the cost of operating Gmail for free for everyone.

Re: Google Calendar Is Down

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Has Google made any public statements about whether or not calendar data is used for ad targeting? Gmail was used for ad targeting until mid-2017[1] but I haven't seen anything about calendar. [1] https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

Afaik, it was never used for ad targeting so there was no announcement to make. Just think about it for minute. What percentage of people actively use Google Calendar? Out of those what percentage put useful information in there? How much commercial value does this information have?

How much commercial value does this information have?

Enough to make it worth continuing to operate the service, clearly. Do you really want to go down that road?

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