A reminder that AMP results don’t show up on Google Search if you use the mobile version of Firefox ;)
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Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
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Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#112Maybe an obvious or stupid question, but that's worth asking: As a user, do we have a way to disable AMP?
Use DuckDuckGo instead? There’s no switch in Google.
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#113It's ironic to me that AMP is a problem we all brought upon ourselves, really. It's almost (jokingly) a Prisoner's dilemma [1]. Had no one ever opted into it, it probably would have just been swept under the rug by Google, and a win-win for us all. But since a competitor of yours ( probably ) opted into it to get ahead of you, you now have to opt into it also, to compete and get the same SEO "power juice" it gave the…
Same thing happens in agriculture over pesticide use !
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's okay to use more data. But it's important to respect users on faster mobile networks who pay by quota. Getting to the top of Google isn't at all difficult if you know how to build a fast website. And that doesn't require AMP at all.
> It's okay to use more data. But it's important to respect users on faster mobile networks who pay by quota. Aren't those 2 sentences contradictory?
"We have to consider both of these in seeking a balanced middle-ground" is hardly a paradox.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on who you mean by "we", people working directly on implementing/supporting AMP? Anti-google crowd? Sure, you're probably right. But as someone who's just an end user, and not working on frontend development who likes AMP, I don't bother commenting when the opinion is extremely skewed to one side. I love AMP. The website loads faster, feels a lot snappier, and is overall positive experience for me. That's wha…
I highly doubt that you are just the "end user" you claim to be, otherwise you wouldn't be here, having this discussion. But let's assume that you are. >Of course there's the argument with google trying to get a tighter grip on web and while that is not a good thing the truth is that I, and huge majority of average consumers, just don't care if it means better results for me. What you are describing is the very commo…
Don't forget that they don't even actually load faster, but rather support the illusion of such because Google lazy-loads a few of them in the background while you're reading through the search results. Which honestly has some merits of its own, though it's a kick in the dick for metered data.
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Further to your point, AMP was only ever needed because we made our pages so artificiality heavy in the first place
That's not why AMP is needed. It is needed (by google) to extend their dominance of search results into the results themselves. It is not needed by anyone else. You can easily make pages lighter without AMP, and we shouldn't so easily swallow the reasons given by Google for its introduction.
I'll rephrase what he said.
AMP was only ever needed because so many made their pages so artificiality heavy in the first place and had no incentive to make them lighter.
AMP SEO advantage is a great incentive to make them lighter. The thing is, Google could have pushed their algorithm toward performance more and make it clear on their page too and have the same effect. They just found a way to get more control from it too.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand, can you elaborate? What are Tor's tracking notifications?
I think bitL is saying that reddit embeds some sort of tracking script in “soon-to-be-banned subreddits” that they don’t embed in normal subteddits, and that you can tell this from notifications within Tor
Still don't follow. Why track soon-to-be-banned subreddits differently?
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#118It's ironic to me that AMP is a problem we all brought upon ourselves, really. It's almost (jokingly) a Prisoner's dilemma [1]. Had no one ever opted into it, it probably would have just been swept under the rug by Google, and a win-win for us all. But since a competitor of yours ( probably ) opted into it to get ahead of you, you now have to opt into it also, to compete and get the same SEO "power juice" it gave the…
Counterpoint:
WE don't live in an ideal world and AMP is my only option of getting de-bloated webpages. I would love if managers and directors would do this themselves and AMP wouldn't be needed, but that's just not the case.
I have to choose between downloading some text and images to read an article or load 5MB JavaScript SinglePageApp with tracking, ads, auto playing video's...
I know in an ideal world AMP would be useless, but until we reach that world I'm going to prefer AMP links over normal ones.
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not why AMP is needed. It is needed (by google) to extend their dominance of search results into the results themselves. It is not needed by anyone else. You can easily make pages lighter without AMP, and we shouldn't so easily swallow the reasons given by Google for its introduction.
I'll rephrase what he said. AMP was only ever needed because so many made their pages so artificiality heavy in the first place and had no incentive to make them lighter. AMP SEO advantage is a great incentive to make them lighter. The thing is, Google could have pushed their algorithm toward performance more and make it clear on their page too and have the same effect. They just found a way to get more control from…
I think the real trouble with AMP is that it really does bring a better experience to users. It's harder to argue against AMP when it has undoubtedly helped with the web bloat problem. Even I find myself semi-subconsciously preferring the results with the little lightning icon because it means I don't have to wait for the page to perform 3-4 tectonic shifts and wait a couple of seconds to read something that could've been text/plain without a lot of loss. Say what you will, but the experience is much better.
AMP was a very calculated move on Google's part. The narrative of "we're only doing it to help our users avoid the bloat" when everyone agrees that bloat is a huge problem works very well.
Re: Google AMP Issue: Links to visit the site currently not working
#120I'm surprised I haven't seen more discussion on the actual bug in the comments. In the screen capture the user shows, the AMP header shows the link icon in the upper right corner, and when you click it it should show the real URL and let you navigate through (but that's not happening, hence the bug). However, in my experience the header is totally different. There is an (i) icon in the upper left corner that shows th…
I think in general anything about amp receives a bit of attention to put it mildly. I'm curious if anyone from amp/google is lurking around to give a perspective. It is reproducible on all my devices now. I remember it working at least yesterday...