While relatable, this is just a low effort post more suited for Twitter or Reddit. For a fair comparison OP would need to use clean browser profiles on fresh IPs. Like this it is just fan-service for Google Captcha victims (like me).
Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome
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#112I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…
All of the "interactive stand-alone approaches" from that page can be beaten with run-of-the-mill OCR (other than perhaps the 3d challenge) and with almost any mobile phone speech recognition engine (and, if the attacker has the money, can send it off to Google's cloud speech-to-text).
All of the non-interactive approaches from the page require this constant tuning and upkeep to make sure bots aren't able to sign up/abuse systems. There's also not \that\ secure if your website is targeted and scripts are made specifically to avoid your anti-abuse methods.
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I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?
if this is true, I'd love to hear the alternate! I use recaptcha and hate that my chinese customers need to do wacky stuff to circumvent it.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
To make it more expensive for bots to try this at scale, obviously. Unfortunately it's making it more expensive for humans too.
you may be right about the fade-out and delay but the time spent fading in only hampers humans not bots. As soon as it starts fading in the image is present in non-faded form and the bots can start processing it.
(And yes, I'm also driven to rage by slow-fade animations. A practice I can date back to Microsoft's Clippy, which, when you punched it in the fact to go away, had just one more gratuitous animation just to twist the knife that just more.)
Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome
#115While relatable, this is just a low effort post more suited for Twitter or Reddit. For a fair comparison OP would need to use clean browser profiles on fresh IPs. Like this it is just fan-service for Google Captcha victims (like me).
This is a common problem with FF if you have any privacy settings enabled. ReCAPTCHA does deep fingerprinting. If you block that fingerprinting it punishes you.
Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome
#116I thought this was just me and their stupid caption being impossible for even humans to solve; turns out I was just being gaslighted this entire time and they're just discriminating against Firefox users? How does the EU or someone not shut down this sort of anti-competative monopolostic nosense? I didn't think I could get more furious about having to struggle with these captions all day, but somehow I am. Please eve…
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?
if this is true, I'd love to hear the alternate! I use recaptcha and hate that my chinese customers need to do wacky stuff to circumvent it.
Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome
#118While relatable, this is just a low effort post more suited for Twitter or Reddit. For a fair comparison OP would need to use clean browser profiles on fresh IPs. Like this it is just fan-service for Google Captcha victims (like me).
This is a common problem with FF if you have any privacy settings enabled. ReCAPTCHA does deep fingerprinting. If you block that fingerprinting it punishes you.
I've had to pay 100x bills on my monthly quota once too often, and as a hobby developer, I just can't afford trying to fight off people abusing my website every day.
Yes, resorting to fingerprinting is not ideal, but what's better, asking everyone to solve that hard captcha, or only some users?
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was supposed to be what this version was (reCaptcha v3). As a matter of fact, however, quite a few of us get extremely long or unsolvable captchas every time.
No, the OP is showing v2. v3 doesn't have any UI for end-users: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3 It is simply a scoring system, applying an ML model to typical actions for your website. It's up to the site owner to determine how to handle those that don't meet v3's score, which can be a traditional CAPTCHA or hopefully something more effective and forgiving to humans: https://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/
Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome
#120Would it be possible to build a Firefox plugin that creates and isolates the requisite cookies to allow reputation to be built, but at least partially maintains privacy? I was thinking maybe something that has 10 difference Google sessions, and shards them depending on the website, deciding which to send to the Captcha. You'd build reputation at 1/10th the speed, but you'd still potentially build it. Or, one that all…