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The Making of a YouTube Radical

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Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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Paul Joseph Watson was an employee of Info Wars. Like, the whole thing of that site is conspiracy theories? I can't help but feel you're being disingenuous when you question Info Wars members being conspiracy theorists.

And I feel people are being disingenuous when they say Paul Joseph Watson is a conspiracy theorist by association. I've watched several of his own videos on his YouTube channel. Where are the conspiracy theories?

I found these in about 10 minutes. Don't act like being part of a conspiracy theory website makes calling you a conspiracy theorist is some sort of disingenuous leap. Like the point of the website is spreading conspiracy theories.

A lot of the prison planet blog was deleted it seems, I guess due to his and alex jones' fallout, but here are your links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifIAlft47bM

https://www.infowars.com/obama-birth-certificate-raises-as-m...

https://web.archive.org/web/20180123234120/https://www.priso...

https://web.archive.org/web/20170702085649/https://www.priso...

https://web.archive.org/web/20171226050840/https://www.priso...

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #94

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I would be interested in seeing you make a case for him being literally a white supremacist. A convincing case would be: 1. a specific, authoritative definition of white supremacy 2. an example of a video demonstrating these specific (not approximate) beliefs Is downvoting a request for evidence for an extraordinary claim (to be clear: this is not an assertion, so you "downvoting to express disagreement" is not valid…

Stefan Molyneux? Are you serious? Here's a video from him where he says he can't "argue with the facts" about white nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWYFU7OMw58&feature=youtu.be... Here are choice quotes with sources: “The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!” —Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014 "Screaming 'racism…

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Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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> Are you serious? Yes I am. Are you serious? If so, accept my challenge, starting with an authoritative definition of white supremacy. What you've done instead, you've skipped that and proceeded directly to cherry-picked, out of context and misleading sound bytes. For example, in "The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!", he is referring to "crazy" people, not non-white people. Or, i…

I'm not playing your game because it's not going to go anywhere. I gave you what you asked for. I'm not defining words you can look up within a few seconds yourself because you're not actually interested in that. I gave you a list of quotes, I gave you a video like you asked. Stefan molyneux has argued in interviews IQ differences are innate. If you check one of the six sources on the wikipedia article attesting to h…

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Quick Question: You are worried about right-ring rabbit holes, NYT. If I watched a bunch of NYT, Vox, and other such videos, are you _sure_ I wouldn't be sucked into a Left-wing rabbit hole?

NYT is not a left wing outlet. Left-wing mass media, produced by a large capitalist conglomerate, if you think carefully is an oxymoron.

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #30

This piece of "journalism" is very biased towards the left. I have noticed that the left has increasingly declared traditional right-wing values as "extremist" or "alt-right" to attempt to whittle down what being right-wing means. An example of this is abortion. No matter how you feel about it, saying that abortion is murder and should be banned is now, in the NYT's opinion, "alt-right" and "extremist" even though ab…

The right has always hated abortion in recent memory, but I think you've gone too far in saying that most conservatives think abortion is murder. Some of the extreme rightists, usually of the religious variety, think that abortion is murder, but rank and file conservatives will probably not tell you that they a woman who gets an abortion(even illegally) should go to prison for life for first degree murder and conspir…

The most interesting thing though, is that the Scandinavian Countries (the leftiest in Europe) have the toughest regulations about abortions - the cut-off term AFAIR is only 12 weeks vs 24 in USA.

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #94

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Stefan Molyneux? Are you serious? Here's a video from him where he says he can't "argue with the facts" about white nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWYFU7OMw58&feature=youtu.be... Here are choice quotes with sources: “The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!” —Podcast FDR2740, “Conformity and the Cult of ‘Friendship’,” Wednesday call-in show July 2, 2014 "Screaming 'racism…

> Are you serious? Yes I am. Are you serious? If so, accept my challenge, starting with an authoritative definition of white supremacy. What you've done instead, you've skipped that and proceeded directly to cherry-picked, out of context and misleading sound bytes. For example, in "The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!", he is referring to "crazy" people, not non-white people. Or, i…

> This statement is false. I asked for an authoritative definition of your slur. You even explicitly admit that you didn't provide this.

Annnd it always comes out in the end. White supremacist isn't a slur.

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #70
post #56

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I just scrolled down the screenshot section where it showed the videos he watched in one time period, are you really trying to say Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, thunderf00t and a lady complaining about "cuckservatives" aren't "far right" or conspiracy theorists?

I haven't watched Stefan Molyneux or thunderf00t, so can't tell. I've watched a few Paul Joseph Watson videos. I've also watched Shapiro, Milo, and Peterson, recognized from the screenshots shown. You can agree or disagree with the positions they take (e.g. Milo plays the extravagant provocateur for laughs and money), but where are those "conspiracy theories"? Of course in these days, everything is labeled a "conspir…

Thunderf00t just hates SJWs, he's not right wing in the slightest. Stefan Molymeme on the other hand is literally alt-right and believes in race 'realism'.

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #117

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> Are you serious? Yes I am. Are you serious? If so, accept my challenge, starting with an authoritative definition of white supremacy. What you've done instead, you've skipped that and proceeded directly to cherry-picked, out of context and misleading sound bytes. For example, in "The whole breeding arena of the species needs to be cleaned the fuck up!", he is referring to "crazy" people, not non-white people. Or, i…

> This statement is false. I asked for an authoritative definition of your slur. You even explicitly admit that you didn't provide this. Annnd it always comes out in the end. White supremacist isn't a slur.

> White supremacist isn't a slur.

The terms isn't a slur, it is the baseless (so far) accusation which is a slur.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/slur

Using pedantically concise, accurate, objectively correct language certainly isn't very popular nowadays, but I argue that it is very important. Otherwise, if neither side has a proper understanding of what the other is saying, how shall we have productive discussions and come to mutually acceptable compromises in an increasingly complex society?

Re: The Making of a YouTube Radical

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post #23

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I'm not a fan of all of those YouTubers, but quite a few of the big ones (i.e. Crowder, Shapiro, Peterson) detest racism, and have openly and many times said that they do not support white supremacy and think Nazis are racist morons. Someone asked why neo-Nazis were attending one of their conferences, and the speaker (Peterson) said he had no idea and wanted them to leave for being idiots. Doesn't change the fact tha…

"Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue. #settlementsrock" - Ben Shapiro

All completely true.
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