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Post by matwood »

mindgam3 wrote: post #99
matwood wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason I zeroed in on the word practical is that it is used as a way to put down people doing something different than you. Now you’ve used survival type situations as another way to put others down. Body weight things are great, but they have limits. The best results are going to come from a mix of body weight, power lifting, and conditioning. Any lifting program I have ever done included pull ups, dips, and pus…

Okay, that's a fair point and thanks for clarifying. To be clear, I'm not trying to put down all lifting - I agree with your point that best results come from a mix. My only problem with lifting culture is one particular subculture which emphasizes growth at all costs, steroids etc, which I find super dangerous and unhealthy. But I concede that I didn't make this clear with my original wording. Also agree about BJJ.…

Bodybuilding is definitely an interesting subculture. They are crazy strong, but just a very different focus. And the health issues are a real problem. Check out the Ronnie Coleman doc on Netflix sometime.

I’ve been lifting for almost 20 years now and never had much interest in BB. Power lifting with oly lifts plus a good diet and I was perfectly happy with my appearance.

BJJ is definitely a super power. My only complaint is I tried it for awhile 10 years ago and let life get in the way so I quit. You mentioned confidence earlier and BJJ delivers that in spades. It also forces you to be humble. It helps you remain calm in stressful situations. I find myself at work sometimes now when everyone is stressed out wondering if I should fake excitement because I’m able to think calmly. Trying not to oversell it, but it’s pretty great.

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Post by copperx »

gellmann wrote: post #53
01100011 wrote: post #31

The site recommends crunches and leg extensions... crunches are not a great exercise for functional ab muscles, and leg extensions are generally verboten due to stress on the knees from the open chain loading. It's good to be thinking of this stuff though. I highly recommend Athlean-X(his free youtube videos, can't say anything about his programs) and Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength program. Between these two, I've…

The post is specifically on correcting weaknesses. Leg extensions verboten? That's a blatantly wrong statement because you're using it _absolutely_. Maybe for max loading, but nobody is recommending 1rm leg extensions. Specifically here it's being used to strengthen the VMO, so it would be in a moderate loading range. Without looking it up, can you think of another direct way to improve patellar tracking issues due t…

Is "functional training" overrated?

https://www.mensjournal.com/features/everything-you-know-abo...

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Post by Mirioron »

foldingmoney wrote: post #104
gellmann wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post is specifically on correcting weaknesses. Leg extensions verboten? That's a blatantly wrong statement because you're using it _absolutely_. Maybe for max loading, but nobody is recommending 1rm leg extensions. Specifically here it's being used to strengthen the VMO, so it would be in a moderate loading range. Without looking it up, can you think of another direct way to improve patellar tracking issues due t…

I think a valid definition of functional would be 'common in everyday life', and 'powerlifter trying to max his/her squat' does not qualify as a common everyday movement. Parent might be referring to the assertion that the abs' main role is to prevent torso flexion (as opposed to cause it), which makes something like a Paloff press a more 'functional' movement.

But if said muscle was used in everyday life, then wouldn't it already be strong enough?

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Post by Mirioron »

01100011 wrote: post #31

The site recommends crunches and leg extensions... crunches are not a great exercise for functional ab muscles, and leg extensions are generally verboten due to stress on the knees from the open chain loading. It's good to be thinking of this stuff though. I highly recommend Athlean-X(his free youtube videos, can't say anything about his programs) and Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength program. Between these two, I've…

>Done properly, weightlifting is one of the safest sports.

The problem is that it's difficult to do properly for the average person. You can read about it and see instructions, but that doesn't tell you if you're actually doing it right. A coach might help, but then you're not dealing with the average person anymore nor do you have the freedom to choose your exercise plans, because you might not have a coach available for what you're looking for.

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Post by Mirioron »

blunte wrote: post #42
wespiser_2018 wrote: post #14

I've been working a 5x5 barbell program, which has me squat 3 times a week, for the last year. I've never felt stronger, or faster in my life! (I'm 32). Exercise has had a very positive effect on my feeling of wellbeing, and I am glad to see that the big 5: bench press, shoulder press, row, squat, and deadlift, at least address the major sources of muscle weakness! I would strongly recommend anyone interested in lift…

This plan should be everyone's plan until they have some very specific requirement. It's the most effective, most complete approach to balanced human strength (with the unexpected mental and energy benefits you mention).

But it's difficult to always get right. Coaches aren't available to everyone.

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Post by naasking »

MFLoon wrote: post #28
ohaideredevs wrote: post #2

I really wish there were places that could legitimately analyze muscle imbalances and suggest corrective exercises. The internet only works for the most common ones, such as pelvic tilt, and sometimes you mis-diagnose yourself. A lot of the "great" information online is bro-science, and doctors generally don't care at all, so neither is optimal. P.S. The military uses fancy position sensors to track muscle imbalances…

I'd contend that the very notion of muscular imbalance as pathology is somewhat in the realm of bro science. It's not that the mechanical descriptions in the article are inaccurate - weak abdominals will negatively impact your squat, sure - but there is no causal association of said imbalances or strength deficiencies with injurious outcomes. Doing a movement with less mechanical advantage just means you have to work…

> The actual correlative with injury risk is stress

This seems like a strange take to me. Aren't you essentially arguing that a faulty seatbelt isn't really a problem because the real source of injury is the collision?

The obvious response would seem to be, "well yeah, that's why we want working seatbelts", and analogously, "we don't want muscular imbalances because of increased injury risk under stress". Although other reasons also exist.

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Post by sridca »

txru wrote: post #36
mindgam3 wrote: post #34

Recommendation for those looking to build serious functional strength and avoid injury: Convict Conditioning. Emphasis is on calisthenics (body weight training) not pumping iron. Can’t recommend it highly enough. https://www.dragondoor.com/convict-conditioning-downloadable...

Strongly agree with the body weight training, but also check out the bodyweightfitness subreddit [0] for good discussion and advice. They have a simple and concise starting routine [1] for people just starting out. There are also some mild critiques [2] of Convict Conditioning. It's very good for a very practical kind of strength, but you will likely not get big very fast, if that's what you're looking for. I've been…

Keep in mind that r/bodyweightfitness is biased towards active population ... and sedentary population would do well to follow a high-rep program like Convict Conditioning. See https://old.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/comments/atv610/i...

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Post by sridca »

mindgam3 wrote: post #34

Recommendation for those looking to build serious functional strength and avoid injury: Convict Conditioning. Emphasis is on calisthenics (body weight training) not pumping iron. Can’t recommend it highly enough. https://www.dragondoor.com/convict-conditioning-downloadable...

Greasing the groove is another technique to follow.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/comments/9zrpga/g...

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Post by mindgam3 »

sridca wrote: post #118
mindgam3 wrote: post #34

Recommendation for those looking to build serious functional strength and avoid injury: Convict Conditioning. Emphasis is on calisthenics (body weight training) not pumping iron. Can’t recommend it highly enough. https://www.dragondoor.com/convict-conditioning-downloadable...

Greasing the groove is another technique to follow. https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/comments/9zrpga/g...

Interesting. This goes against the philosophy of [working to failure + enough recovery] that I’ve been following so far. I’ll have to do some more research here.

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Post by unmole »

djtriptych wrote: post #98
craigzucchini wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Yoga may be a great way to improve flexibility, among other physical benefits, prana is no more than a quack belief if I were to be generous. Unless you're thinking of something remotely testable/measurable/not rooted in a religious philosophy/not tied to breatharianism

It's a mistake to limit your own understanding the universe to what can be measured by science, while surrounded by perceivable phenomena that science can't explain. It's at the very least arrogant to reject wholesale the common experience of millions of practitioners over thousands of years. Yoga is not dogmatic. Try it and see for yourself. As for my specific claim, science has neither proven nor disproven the perc…

Thousands of practitioners and millions of users also believe in the efficacy of Homeopathy. They are convinced that diluting a substance actually increases its potency! It's not very difficult to find examples of millions of people believing in nonsense. The Placebo effect is very real.

Science hasn't disproven the existence of Invisible Pink Unicorns either. But I definitely would hold off on building unicorn crossings untill we actually have evidence.

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