Live data from Hacker News

Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

ftp.mozilla.org

111–120 of 392 posts

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#111

>open ff >lastpass gone >google error messages >please update ff >update >browser works I'm sorry to break it to you Chrome fanboys but it'll take a lot more than a minor extensions goof up (that was fixed in a day) for me to switch my browser.

>using meme arrows on HN

[deleted]

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

xpinstall.signatures.required = false worked for me on android

Yeah, this also worked for me on Android. Not sure why the downvotes.

You're better off waiting a few more hours that disabling important security features.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#113

I was already a bit mad at them for removing RSS support and claiming their proprietary service that's built in is an alternative, now their proprietary service keeps working (presumably, I didn't use it but it's not an addon so I doubt it's signed the same way) and I can't use the RSS addon. I know this was a mistake, but I can't help but be mad that their proprietary built in stuff effectively gets a free pass and…

Never hear Mozilla claiming anything about a prioprietary service being an alternative to add-ons. The reason for which built-in RSS support was removed is that it was much crappier than the add-ons available.

Doesn't solve your problems, though :/

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see the purpose. There seems to be an assumption that A/B testing is inherently bad, therefor should be opt-in. A/B testing is necessary for stable rollouts, that much seems self evident. So what is the evidence that A/B testing is harmful to users?

It isn't A/B testing that is bad, it is running and/or modifying stuff in the user's computer without their knowledge that is bad. If a site modifies some part of their layout or whatever isn't bad, but a browser installing addons or changing settings to see if it will crash is bad.

Wait, so running and modifying stuff on all users' computers is good, but a random sample isn't? That's what A/B testing deals with.

The discussion isn't "modify stuff" vs. "don't modify stuff". The discussion is "some users" vs. "all users".

And obviously if you have an auto-update mechanism you're modifying stuff on the user's computer. Chrome updates are near invisible on modern machines. That's a good thing. It keeps the browser evergreen and protects users. If everything were opt-in because "Google shouldn't modify stuff on my computer" that would be an absolute disaster for everyone. No way.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#116
post #90

This is pretty bad for Firefox. I wonder how much people straight up & left for Chrome as a result of it.

It will be possible to roughly deduct this from the following statistics during the next days/weeks: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/... https://data.firefox.com

Note that these statistics would, presumably, exclude all users who disable telemetry in Firefox. Since many of those outraged at the interruption to addons seem to overlap frequently with those who object to and disable telemetry and studies on principle, their departure over this incident could well have no impact whatsoever on the metrics you linked above.

It must be a nightmare for the Firefox team to have a minority group of quick-to-anger users that refuse to allow themselves to be taken into account by usage metrics, refuse to allow their browser to participate in studies, and then object loudly when decisions are made that discount them.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#118
post #26

I tried Firefox recently because I want to ditch my Chrome habit and I love Mozilla but it had serious performance issues on all of my macs (fans would spin at max after 5 min, a long standing and known issue I guess) along with some real oddities on my android. Between bad performance and these many recent missteps I ended up ditching it for just another chromium based browser out there. Though my experience is some…

If you’re on a Mac, you have Safari installed as well which is better than Chrome (or most Chromium flavors) on the privacy and security front, not to mention battery life and performance. However, I’m sure Mozilla would like a bug report, because I’ve never seen performance issues with Firefox on a Mac. Edit: I should note that the couple of MacBook Airs I had it installed on were pre-Retina so that might explain wh…

Safari occasionally crashes for me on OS X with a massive stacktrace. One time it was because it couldn't create a directory locally in my Preferences.

Never had that trouble with Chrome. Flawless browser.

Re: Firefox 66.0.4 is out, fixes disabled add-ons

#119
post #113

I was already a bit mad at them for removing RSS support and claiming their proprietary service that's built in is an alternative, now their proprietary service keeps working (presumably, I didn't use it but it's not an addon so I doubt it's signed the same way) and I can't use the RSS addon. I know this was a mistake, but I can't help but be mad that their proprietary built in stuff effectively gets a free pass and…

Never hear Mozilla claiming anything about a prioprietary service being an alternative to add-ons. The reason for which built-in RSS support was removed is that it was much crappier than the add-ons available. Doesn't solve your problems, though :/

Pocket was promoted as the replacement for RSS. Pocket is a closed source SaaS product, despite the fact Mozilla now owns it.
Post reply on HN